Just now, Soapsuds said:

Has GH improved? Of course!  A lot?  No

Didn't ask!

How stupid of me to JUST now... read about the premiere date. I can't wait! A beginning of a new era for soaps! Let me now wish that in 10 years... there will be 2-3 more! 

3 hours ago, Vee said:

Didn't ask!

Wow...go MVJ.  This is all just incredible. 

And to think, there will actually be news I can look forward to reading trickle out for the rest of the year, instead of tearing my hair out.

4 hours ago, Faulkner said:

I’m not yet convinced that Mulcahey/Korte on GH will be much more than what Sally Sussman and Kay Alden were for Y&R, in spite of a few promising improvements. Neither PM nor EK are proven visionaries of the long story, but at least they are veterans who studied at the feet of true geniuses (like MVJ has).

I resent that, especially where Sally Sussman is concerned. She went in with a "revenge agenda" and that's all she wanted to do. Kay Alden should've been the head writer; it would have fared better.

4 hours ago, Liberty City said:

I resent that, especially where Sally Sussman is concerned. She went in with a "revenge agenda" and that's all she wanted to do. Kay Alden should've been the head writer; it would have fared better.

What do you mean about revenge agenda? I thought she came in wanting to reset the characters who were being written wildly out of character. She fixed Sharon, the wrote of dull characters like Chelsea, Chloe and Kevin who were overdue for exits, she gave Cane his best story ever and I liked how she wrote Hillary, Devon, Mariah and Nikki. I think she did a lot in her short time and nothing she did hurt the show. You can’t say that about any other HW on Y&R in recent years.
 

She deserved at least a year which I hope PM/EK get on GH. It seems like today people expect changes immediately but in a soap that is more difficult. I appreciate both teams taking a more old school approach and trying to fix the characters before jumping into major stories. 

I think that w/o making major changes immediately and adopting a more measured approach, it can take a good 6 months for new writers to get a show back into shape.

Same holds true for a new show-it can take that long for things to fall into place- there might need to be recasts or actors having to adjust to playing a role as the writers see it, or conversely, writers reshaping a character to suit the actor etc

I do worry about the show being centered around wealthy characters-that can be limiting in terms of budget -I don't want to see rich characters living in tiny houses with no staff, and being wealthy takes away some story options as well.

3 hours ago, Chris B said:

What do you mean about revenge agenda? I thought she came in wanting to reset the characters who were being written wildly out of character. She fixed Sharon, the wrote of dull characters like Chelsea, Chloe and Kevin who were overdue for exits, she gave Cane his best story ever and I liked how she wrote Hillary, Devon, Mariah and Nikki. I think she did a lot in her short time and nothing she did hurt the show. You can’t say that about any other HW on Y&R in recent years.
 

Exactly. 

17 minutes ago, Paul Raven said:

 

I do worry about the show being centered around wealthy characters-that can be limiting in terms of budget -I don't want to see rich characters living in tiny houses with no staff, and being wealthy takes away some story options as well.

I don't find rich people drama that fascinating in 2024. I hope the show centers on some regular folks as well. 

Just logged in after a long time and saw this. I will be seated for this. What's the latest?!?! Damn i'm about to dive into the rest of the thread lol. Way too cool to hear.

I’m not going to make any assumptions based on a pitch. I don’t know if anyone else has made a pitch, I have and you are not meant to give details, just a sketch. I plan to hold judgement until I see more details than what is indicated in a pitch or a treatment.

7 hours ago, Paul Raven said:

I think that w/o making major changes immediately and adopting a more measured approach, it can take a good 6 months for new writers to get a show back into shape.

Same holds true for a new show-it can take that long for things to fall into place- there might need to be recasts or actors having to adjust to playing a role as the writers see it, or conversely, writers reshaping a character to suit the actor etc

I do worry about the show being centered around wealthy characters-that can be limiting in terms of budget -I don't want to see rich characters living in tiny houses with no staff, and being wealthy takes away some story options as well.

Has there ever been a soap that didn't have a wealthy family at the onset? 

42 minutes ago, BoldRestless said:

Has there ever been a soap that didn't have a wealthy family at the onset? 

Are you talking just television soaps? Because radio soaps had plenty that didn’t have wealthy families at the onset.

Also, didn’t the Ryans of Ryan’s Hope feature a family that was ostensibly blue-collar at the onset?

2 minutes ago, DramatistDreamer said:

Are you talking just television soaps? Because radio soaps had plenty that didn’t have wealthy families at the onset.

Also, didn’t the Ryans of Ryan’s Hope feature a family that was ostensibly blue-collar at the onset?

I was thinking of TV as I don’t know much about radio soaps. I was thinking of RH but Wikipedia says it included the wealthy Coleridge family.

I don't know if any of you have monitored the comment sections on “mainstream” entertainment sites about The Gates premiere news, but it has been predictably creepy and racist (below is a mild example because others were frankly too distasteful to copy and paste).  Given that we've avoided this type of discourse, I hope others will report it when they see it.

I hope we can avoid the obvious media reports about “backlash” toward the production for highlighting Black culture.  Much like, I hope that we can avoid discussions of what constitutes a racist reaction and what could be inferred as offensive.

Edited April 17, 20241 yr by j swift

This is great news for the genre of Soaps. Hoping more networks follow suit even if it is reviving some of the older shows that were cancelled in 30 minute formats.