15 minutes ago, Vee said:

I'm not defending Griffith, but we have no idea if this is a mental health thing so much as clearly cutting costs to the bare minimum and Griffith being foolish enough to think he can do it all himself. Or it could be CBS/Sony pushing for it as well.

I remember Gazzaniga from working on the PP soaps (I think they ended up one of the final de facto HWs near the end as PP kept cutting people to save their dwindling funds). I think Michael Conforti was one of the guys credited for the early youth writing for Dillon and Georgie at GH, though I may be wrong. I know Jeff Beldner's name but not from where.

You are correct that Marin Gazzaniga was going to be the new head writer of PP's OLTL had it continued.  She had been one of the final people that had done the soap writing program at ABC before it was discontinued and apparently she was contributing well in the writers room.

4 minutes ago, mikelyons said:

It's a bit muddled. Breakdown writers take the long term story from the head writer and create daily outlines of the show which the dialogue writers turn into scripts. Usually, there are five outline writers because one writer works on one outline per week. Some soaps have had one or two outline writers; others have had six or more... It just depends on the budget of the show. If the breakdown staff is eliminated, then the HW would - in theory - receive a check for each breakdown they write.

Is Sony/Josh allowed to do this? Well, yes. If their contracts were up - or their contract cycles were up - then it's a totally legal move. Smart? No. Legal? Yes. 

Thank you! The context is helpful. So I suppose it makes more financial sense to consolidate all of these positions (he's also EP isn't he, lol) into one person and one contract and just pay him per breakdown.

YR and BOLD both have renewals through 2024, this can't bode well for the show IMO

 

 

Holy F#%%!!! 😮😲😬 I was hoping this was news that Griffith was fired….Everyone has basically said it but clearly CBS/SONY wants to bury this show before it can get to 65 years…Griffith has no clue what’s he’s doing and this is gonna just be more of a nothing show then it already is…even worse then that though. 

Can we change the title to clarify the news better?? @Toups

I was interested in the tidbit about the WGA negotiations in article, so I wanted to search further.

Three interesting things about his relationship to the union.  First, as already mentioned, in 2007 he took fi-core status during the writer's strike, in order to become the head writer and interim executive producer. Then, 2008, TVGuide.ca broke news suggesting CBS chief Barbara Bloom was angling to replace Griffith because he was re-writing Maria Arena Bell’s scripts. However, after the Writers Guild of America sent a cease-and-desist letter to the Y&R studios, “Josh stopped hijacking scripts immediately, but everyone still wanted him fired,” points out a snitch. And finally, in 2022, the WGA nominated Amanda Beall for writing for Y&R, and omitted his name.

(https://www.soapcentral.com/young-and-restless/news/2013/0816-griffith.php).

https://daytimeconfidential.com/2008/08/18/josh-griffith-given-walking-papers

https://www.goldderby.com/forum/daytime-tv/writers-guild-2022-nominees-for-daytime-drama/

Edited February 23, 20232 yr by j swift

This show is a joke. It once had a budget of over $100m a year (that was into the 21st century) and now we're reduced to firing the breakdown writers? Shame.

Brad Bell fired the actress who played Sally from B&B, but Margo Wain loved her, so she put her on Y&R. Now, thanks to Josh, it's the Sally Spectra Show. I find it unwatchable & I don't see it getting any better.

Maria Arena Bell has not been at the show since 2012. The article from Branco dates back to '08. But yes, Griffith's relationship with the show and its personnel has been fractious for years. It's been suggested his relationships at CBS (Steve Kent?) and keeping the show functional are what keep him in place.

Edited February 23, 20232 yr by Vee

This is BAD. Real BAD. Do people still think he's the one who is going to "safe" this soap? Because, he won't. He did not before and will not now.

Oh what a mess. Sad to see a show that I have loved for so long reduced to this.

lol

 

 

 

39 minutes ago, mikelyons said:

This show is a joke. It once had a budget of over $100m a year (that was into the 21st century) and now we're reduced to firing the breakdown writers? Shame.

Brad Bell fired the actress who played Sally from B&B, but Margo Wain loved her, so she put her on Y&R. Now, thanks to Josh, it's the Sally Spectra Show. I find it unwatchable & I don't see it getting any better.

It’s unwatchable and I actually like CH a lot. They’ve gone through hoops to make that character fit into this show. 

Just appalling the state of this show as it approaches what should be a milestone anniversary.

I truly wish CBS would just cancel YR. It's been on life support for many years. Just pull the plug!

 

So how can this be sustainable long term??

Edited February 23, 20232 yr by dragonflies

4 minutes ago, dragonflies said:

So how can this be sustainable long term??

Ikr? One man doing the job of 7.