9 minutes ago, BetterForgotten said:

That what assume Latham knew how to plan as much of her Y&R was pulling random things out of her ass. 

Bingo! It was also during Latham when Dru was reduced to a caricature and then we got Nia Peeples as the reluctant singer/gym instructor who couldn’t. 🤢

As for Morina, good riddance. Hopefully JG will go along with him. Hopefully my idea I recently posted about Noel Maxam taking over as EP and Boyd, Esser, and Slater was sharing Co-HW duties comes to pass because right now that would be the only thing I could see making Y&R even remotely interesting again. 
 

9 minutes ago, Faulkner said:

LML created him, I believe, and I don’t think it was her who got rid of him, but my memory is fuzzy regarding how things ended with the writers’ strike and her leaving.

It was Latham herself who got rid of him all so she could prop up Amber, Cane, Gloria, and Kevin stories even more. 🤢

Has anyone reported about Morina stepping down (at least temporarily, pending an investigation) or anything about an internal investigation? You would think that would be the next order of business, but I can't seem to find any confirmation of that.

6 hours ago, dragonflies said:

Because we believe women who say this till we have a reason not too 

 

Exactly.

 

And I believe this.

6 minutes ago, amybrickwallace said:

Has anyone reported about Morina stepping down (at least temporarily, pending an investigation) or anything about an internal investigation? You would think that would be the next order of business, but I can't seem to find any confirmation of that.

 

You'd think. But nope. Tumbleweeds could blow by ...

 

And yes as everyone else said, Steve Kent needs TO GO too. It ALWAYS stems from the top. "If they do it so can I"

 

And also, these people have enablers all around them.

 

Y&R has never sounded like a 'fun set' to be a part of, honestly.

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2 minutes ago, KMan101 said:

You'd think. But nope. Tumbleweeds could blow by ...

 

And yes as everyone else said, Steve Kent needs TO GO too. It ALWAYS stems from the top. "If they do it so can I"

So many people have learned NOTHING from #MeToo. 😡😡😡😡😡

2 minutes ago, KMan101 said:

You'd think. But nope. Tumbleweeds could blow by ...

Or even a statement from CBS or Sony that at least gives the impression that they give a sh!t (which they obviously don’t).

1 minute ago, Faulkner said:

Or even a statement from CBS or Sony that at least gives the impression that they give a sh!t (which they obviously don’t).

 

They're beyond checked out so I'm not at all surprised we've heard nothing. CBS/Sony is a MESS. Yikes. Again, stems from the top. Les Moonves ran this network for what two decades? How many actresses did he and Kent get blacklisted that should be *stars* right now? This industry ...

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11 minutes ago, Faulkner said:

Oh ok. Thanks for confirming.

Just saw @BetterForgotten replied the same time I did but he summed it up nicely. The day to day of Y&R in 2007 was so bizarre and insufferable there was no easy storyline flow, no payoff or follow up (ie Nick’s plane was sabotaged lol) that I can explain certain events but couldn’t tell you the why or how at all. 

1 minute ago, KMan101 said:

 

They're beyond checked out so I'm not at all surprised we've heard nothing. CBS/Sony is a MESS. Yikes. Again, stems from the top. Les Moonves ran this network for what two decades?

Not surprised either. They’re probably keeping status quo until a Redstone or a Sony higher up gets involved. Just like CBS and JFP a few years back.

1 minute ago, soapfan770 said:

Just saw @BetterForgotten replied the same time I did but he summed it up nicely. The day to day of Y&R in 2007 was so bizarre and insufferable there was no easy storyline flow, no payoff or follow up (ie Nick’s plane was sabotaged lol) that I can explain certain events but couldn’t tell you the why or how at all. 

 

When you add up all the behind the scenes garbage, you realize these shows just don't even have a chance to remotely succeed when they very well could.

 

When you have a network and cast invested (NBC/Days), they succeed even when the writing is, to put it lightly, questionable. It's clear the DAYS cast even the messy GH cast get along. 

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Just now, soapfan770 said:

Just saw @BetterForgotten replied the same time I did but he summed it up nicely. The day to day of Y&R in 2007 was so bizarre and insufferable there was no easy storyline flow, no payoff or follow up (ie Nick’s plane was sabotaged lol) that I can explain certain events but couldn’t tell you the why or how at all. 

The LML era was unwatchable.  I certainly remember that much lol. The different eras of Y&R since the mid-2000s have been awful (or at best mediocre) in so many unique ways.

7 minutes ago, soapfan770 said:

Just saw @BetterForgotten replied the same time I did but he summed it up nicely. The day to day of Y&R in 2007 was so bizarre and insufferable there was no easy storyline flow, no payoff or follow up (ie Nick’s plane was sabotaged lol) that I can explain certain events but couldn’t tell you the why or how at all. 

Not surprised either. They’re probably keeping status quo until a Redstone or a Sony higher up gets involved. Just like CBS and JFP a few years back.

 

Yeah, that's my guess as well. "Nothing to see here" until someone high up gets involved, if they even do.

4 minutes ago, Faulkner said:

The LML era was unwatchable.  I certainly remember that much lol. The different eras of Y&R since the mid-2000s have been awful (or at best mediocre) in so many unique ways.

So true. It's really depressing how far Y&R has fallen. It's become an empty shell. Doesn't help that Griffith lacks all substance and depth to any of his "stories"

 

It's insane to see how well produced these shows once used to be. Literally primetime ready. Now? Yikes.

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10 minutes ago, KMan101 said:

 

When you add up all the behind the scenes garbage, you realize these shows just don't even have a chance to remotely succeed when they very well could.

 

When you have a network and cast invested (NBC/Days), they succeed even when the writing is, to put it lightly, questionable. It's clear the DAYS cast even the messy GH cast get along. 

Speaking of Days whatever happened to Corday’s lawsuit against Sony for interference? I almost wonder if Bells and Cordays should have cut their losses with Columbia/Sony so long ago given their shows are definitely capable of standing on their own but I guess they felt they still needed the middle partner? 

1 minute ago, soapfan770 said:

Speaking of Days whatever happened to Corday’s lawsuit against Sony for interference? I almost wonder if Bells and Cordays should have cut their losses with Columbia/Sony so long ago given their shows are definitely capable of standing on their own but I guess they felt they still needed the middle partner? 

 

I forgot all about the lawsuit. Sony seems to have always been "the problem" (not that NBC hasn't interfered too) to me.

1 hour ago, KMan101 said:

Y&R has never sounded like a 'fun set' to be a part of, honestly.

How long has it been a "not fun" set? Was it always that way? The stories I've heard go back to at least the 1990s.

4 minutes ago, amybrickwallace said:

How long has it been a "not fun" set? Was it always that way? The stories I've heard go back to at least the 1990s.

I've heard things were also frustrating in the 70s under Conboy as well. Enough that Janice Lynde got out the second she could.

4 minutes ago, amybrickwallace said:

How long has it been a "not fun" set? Was it always that way? The stories I've heard go back to at least the 1990s.

More like the 1980s. I say all the backstage drama began when Ed Scott took over as EP. He's always given me s--- disturber vibes.