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5 minutes ago, victoria foxton said:

 Ava is feeling a bit neutered. As much as i don't like the mob stuff. Ava needs to be involved in the mob. She's a Jerome after all.  I feel like the stalker story is dragging on. 

Agreed. It’s like they can’t handle two female mafia mavens in Port Charles at the same time for some reason.

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I would like to see Brenda return just not the way she was acting in 2010. Her whole nerdy glasses demeanor and style was just a far cry from her earlier self. I believe amnesiac Sonny is the perfect opportunity to bring her back. She can finally have the man she loves without the mob, eventually Sonny gets his memory back, and a whole mess ensues with Carly and Jason.

 

Brenda and Jason is another pairing that I am not against. If they could work that in there at some point that would be cool.

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I hate mob stuff so I am not mad at Ava being out of it but I agree she feels a bit neutered right now. I guess they don't think they can sell the Nikolas pairing if she is in full B mode.

I am holding out hope that once the current stalker mess is over, the Avery custody battle to be nasty.

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I'm here for Anna and Valentin. This is way better than Valentin/Nina or Anna/Finn. I want a love scene!

 

I've somehow gotten to the point where I enjoy seeing Spinelli. Probably because he's not on a ton. I guess it makes sense to break up him and Ellie if he's going to be on the show semi-regularly and she's not. I wonder if they'll put him back with Maxie.

 

They're trying way too hard to sell that Carly and Jason are the bestest friends ever. Joss the Jason cheerleader is annoying. And Carly is the guardian of Jason's kids? We're supposed to believe that Elizabeth and Sam were on board with this? Okay.

 

Today felt like they had to have Sam in the episode so KeMo could meet her guarantees but they had no clue what to do with her. I know that Ava and Nik are both her family, but she never interacts with them so it felt really random that she was suddenly all up in their business. She's not my fave but either give her a story or write her out because lately she feels like a busybody dayplayer. She and Dante could have potential but there hasn't been much progression there.

 

Avery thinks Sonny went to heaven We had to have Diane tell us that the Jason/Carly marriage makes perfect sense because the writers know damn well that it doesn't!

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yeah I seem to remember that Brenda was to return with her Son, but VM wanted a year only and ABC balked. So Brenda became Kim and Alec became Oscar

 

There was also a rumor in 2011 that GH wanted Tams for the Kate recast but she said no. She had just wrapped her second role on Days as Taylor

53 minutes ago, AlexElizabeth said:

I'm here for Anna and Valentin. This is way better than Valentin/Nina or Anna/Finn. I want a love scene!

 

I've somehow gotten to the point where I enjoy seeing Spinelli. Probably because he's not on a ton. I guess it makes sense to break up him and Ellie if he's going to be on the show semi-regularly and she's not. I wonder if they'll put him back with Maxie.

 

They're trying way too hard to sell that Carly and Jason are the bestest friends ever. Joss the Jason cheerleader is annoying. And Carly is the guardian of Jason's kids? We're supposed to believe that Elizabeth and Sam were on board with this? Okay.

 

Today felt like they had to have Sam in the episode so KeMo could meet her guarantees but they had no clue what to do with her. I know that Ava and Nik are both her family, but she never interacts with them so it felt really random that she was suddenly all up in their business. She's not my fave but either give her a story or write her out because lately she feels like a busybody dayplayer. She and Dante could have potential but there hasn't been much progression there.

 

Avery thinks Sonny went to heaven We had to have Diane tell us that the Jason/Carly marriage makes perfect sense because the writers know damn well that it doesn't!

I wonder why we never see Ellie. If the OG doesnt want to return, they could recast

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As much as I am here for the drama that will surround a Jarly marriage, you're telling me a pair of criminals have to get LEGALLY married to prove their union to other criminals??? Couldn't they just say they got married?

 

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6 hours ago, carolineg said:

 

I have to believe that was the initial idea in 2017.  The way Oscar spoke about his mother like it would effect Joss in one way or another and was so dramatic.   And then it ended up being........Kim lol

 

It's absolutely Frank.  I think the rumor was he was put off by her diva behavior at the 50th?  Or she wants too much money?  It's seems like a no brainer to try especially with the actors shenanigans he allows now. 

 

It's not like MB is blocking it.  He panders to that fanbase practically weekly.  And seems to be actual friends with Vanessa.  

 

Vanessa herself seems willing.  She hasn't been attached to an acting project in a couple of years now.   Unless she wants to retire from acting this seems like her best bet.  She is one of the few actress on soaps in her age range that could command a good salary and actual buzz. 

 

I don't worry about it too much.  I doubt we have seen the last of Brenda/Vanessa on GH.  They will bring her back when Frank gets fired, as a last ditch attempt to save the show, or when it gets cancelled.  As long as Sonny is the lead on this show she continues to stay pretty relevant and easy to plug in on the canvas.

 

I have a feeling that was the plan in 2017. 

 

Yeah, Maurice and Vanessa seem friendly and on good terms. I never believed there was truly any bad blood between them. It would be nice to hear actors like Maurice or Steve go to bat for their women co-stars but we never hear that ... 

 

But to his credit, Mo seems very well liked regardless of what we all think of his inflated ego (which he's aware of LOL). If he's constantly told 'you're the star' ... (and he just had Sean Kanan on his YouTube series, so no bad blood between them either ... it's all Frank)

 

I agree, she'll be back eventually I'm sure. The wannabe writer in me is frustrated by all the missed potential. I'm so tired of soaps being run by petty executives who don't give a damn. LOL

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5 hours ago, Faulkner said:

Agreed. It’s like they can’t handle two female mafia mavens in Port Charles at the same time for some reason.

 

It does seem that way.

 

I appreciate Ava isn't treated like the [!@#$%^&*] on the bottom of people's shoes, but she can be more than just one thing at a time lol. Especially when Nikolas is more than willing to get his hands dirty. 

 

They had her slightly involved with Cyrus but it's really just been Ava and Carly finally not seething at the sight of each other (that's being saved for Nina, clearly LOL).

 

It does feel like the stalker story is treading water a bit. Are they trying to figure out who to have it be? LOL. Did plans not work out?

 

It's going to be quite the spectacle seeing Nina explain away merrily being in Port Charles living her life letting everyone believe Sonny is dead, all while hiding her weird feelings for him. LOL.

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2 hours ago, ironlion said:

As much as I am here for the drama that will surround a Jarly marriage, you're telling me a pair of criminals have to get LEGALLY married to prove their union to other criminals??? Couldn't they just say they got married?

 


Yep, the whole thing is ridiculous. Could stronger writing save it? Maybe, but as written, no. The idea that all these major criminal families are fighting over  PORT FRICKIN CHARLES is just absurd.

 

 

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2 hours ago, John said:

yeah I seem to remember that Brenda was to return with her Son, but VM wanted a year only and ABC balked. So Brenda became Kim and Alec became Oscar

 

There was also a rumor in 2011 that GH wanted Tams for the Kate recast but she said no. She had just wrapped her second role on Days as Taylor

I wonder why we never see Ellie. If the OG doesnt want to return, they could recast

 

In theory that would have been a good story for Brenda/Alec.  But I would hope they picked a different actor.  I would hate to think Brenda gave birth to someone as lame as Oscar lol

 

I think Tams would have been fine as a Kate recast.  I am just not sure it was necessary when Megan Ward was available.  I have a hard time picturing her doing all the Connie stuff.    But maybe she would have made it a lot less cartoonish and played it realistically.

2 hours ago, ironlion said:

As much as I am here for the drama that will surround a Jarly marriage, you're telling me a pair of criminals have to get LEGALLY married to prove their union to other criminals??? Couldn't they just say they got married?

 

 

I feel like everything Jason and Carly have done the last 25 years has proven their loyalty.  Anyone who did the most minimal background check or even google search would know they are obsessively loyal to one another.

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11 hours ago, titan1978 said:

I don’t get what was so awful about what Maurice Benard said onstage accepting his Emmy.  I’ve long stopped caring about Sonny, but no matter what I think, he is the tenured star of the show right now, and has been certainly since JFP arrived, if not a couple of years before.  Once they put him with Carly, the two corners of the show not storyline connected to Luke & Laura directly became the overwhelming majority of story.


Is it egotistical to say that out loud?  Yes.  Other people say it, not you.  But I also get he is proud of the show and his place on it.  Now his version of star doesn’t compare to what existed for the popular GH cast of the 1980’s.  But he is clearly the star of the show.

 

And I love Genie.  She will always be GH royalty to me.  Same with Finola Hughes, TR, hell even Vanessa Marcil.  She has kept me tuning in during some real boring eras of this show.  But by choice and by lack of support from TPTB she has come and gone several times over her tenure on the show.  I’m not saying her exits were not justified- they were.


MB’s humblebrag at the Emmys was just his repeating what he said on his podcast — that he’s the star of the show, and Frank said so. Then he followed all that with a mess he created on Twitter.

 

The man is OBNOXIOUS. He won a lead actor Emmy and then spent the weekend fighting on Twitter. That’s just nuts, and it’s what happens with an out-of-control ego.

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56 minutes ago, ranger1rg said:


MB’s humblebrag at the Emmys was just his repeating what he said on his podcast — that he’s the star of the show, and Frank said so. Then he followed all that with a mess he created on Twitter.

 

The man is OBNOXIOUS. He won a lead actor Emmy and then spent the weekend fighting on Twitter. That’s just nuts, and it’s what happens with an out-of-control ego.

 

3 hours ago, KMan101 said:

But to his credit, Mo seems very well liked regardless of what we all think of his inflated ego (which he's aware of LOL)


The second point is true enough. NLG who Lord knows doesn't hide when she dislikes someone and would have plenty of reason to resent MB over what happened last year seemed a lot more indulgent towards him than Ingo.

But I always say to people: acting nice to other people is a different thing from actually being nice. 
He can be super friendly and not act diva-ish and at the same time still be an a**h***e. He can laugh with you and still not have your back when it counts. You can be good at smoothing things over when you have won already and still be the one that stabbed you in the back to win. Heck, he can really get along with you since you don't threaten him and do really really bad things to those who do.
I know we have had four years of a very prominent counter-example in the news but not all narcissists are sociopaths. Some are perfectly comfortable and good at interacting socially; heck they feed their narcissism on getting along with everyone even when they are perfectly happy DOING things to the same everyone that are not nice. 
And inversely some of the people around him may be fooled but others may know where their bread is buttered and pretend to be fooled.
We don't know. What I do know is how he treats fans of the show and the kind of things he said and does on social media and I tend to think social media - because it is so instinctive and immediate and people don't think twice and just tweet and react - reveals a lot about someone's darkest impulses.

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15 minutes ago, FrenchBug82 said:

 


The second point is true enough. NLG who Lord knows doesn't hide when she dislikes someone and would have plenty of reason to resent MB over what happened last year seemed a lot more indulgent towards him than Ingo.

But I always say to people: acting nice to other people is a different thing from actually being nice. 
He can be super friendly and not act diva-ish and at the same time still be an a**h***e. He can laugh with you and still not have your back when it counts. You can be good at smoothing things over when you have won already and still be the one that stabbed you in the back to win. Heck, he can really get along with you since you don't threaten him and do really really bad things to those who do.
I know we have had four years of a very prominent counter-example in the news but not all narcissists are sociopaths. Some are perfectly comfortable and good at interacting socially; heck they feed their narcissism on getting along with everyone even when they are perfectly happy DOING things to the same everyone that are not nice. 
And inversely some of the people around him may be fooled but others may know where their bread is buttered and pretend to be fooled.
We don't know. What I do know is how he treats fans of the show and the kind of things he said and does on social media and I tend to think social media - because it is so instinctive and immediate and people don't think twice and just tweet and react - reveals a lot about someone's darkest impulses.


Speaking of NLG, after the MB mess, she tweeted and delivered A LOT of shade while praising GH and never directly mentioning Benard.

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14 minutes ago, ranger1rg said:


Speaking of NLG, after the MB mess, she tweeted and delivered A LOT of shade while praising GH and never directly mentioning Benard.

 

LOL I love that woman.
As I said, she strikes me as the bread... buttered... when it comes to MB which is why she didn't let last year escalate.

 

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5 hours ago, John said:

yeah I seem to remember that Brenda was to return with her Son, but VM wanted a year only and ABC balked. So Brenda became Kim and Alec became Oscar

 

There was also a rumor in 2011 that GH wanted Tams for the Kate recast but she said no. She had just wrapped her second role on Days as Taylor

I wonder why we never see Ellie. If the OG doesnt want to return, they could recast

Agreed. The original wasn't all that anyhow, so just recast, stupid she's never shown.

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