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2 hours ago, Chatty Cakes said:

How long is the temporary Amanda on? Does anyone else like her? I do like MM but think KM has been decent in the role.

    Tuesday 6-1, tomorrow is the return date for Mishael Morgan.   I agree Karla Moseley did a great job as Amanda for the month she filled-in. 

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I can't stand the way the Abbotts are acting, though it's true to form given how they've treated Theo. Kyle is parading around with the paternity results acting like he's doing some noble thing by "saving" Harrison from the evil clutches of Ashland Locke when in reality, all I see is a child being ripped from the only father he has ever known, and whom he seems to have a good relationship with. Ashland is a lot of things when it comes to business (and tbh not too different from Victor), but I believe he genuinely loves his son. What bugs me the most is that by the end of all of this, the Abbotts will come out on top given how predictable JG is.

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On 5/29/2021 at 11:38 AM, DaytimeFan said:


It’s unlikely we’ll be seeing Jill for the foreseeable future: Jess Walton’s husband, John, has had a reoccurrence of the cancer he was in remission from a few years ago and she’s asking for prayers and love as her family goes through what she’s described as a painful time. 

That is very sad to hear. Good energy sent her way.

 

7 hours ago, DramatistDreamer said:

Bryton being a talent is not an unpopular opinion with me. For years, I have always believed he just never got any storyline. Dude had a quasi-imaginary girlfriend for years! People were willing to credit MM (deservedly so) for what worked with Devon and Hilary, but Button also had something to do with that.

I think some of the source of some soap fans denigrating the character and the actor who plays him had to do with the aspect of him not being the 6 ft prototype, therefore they don't find him attractive in that aggressively hyper-masculine way that some soap fans have been trained to see as 'leading man' material.

I like the 'naturalistic' style he has in his performance, yes I do think it is a choice. Some people would call it monotone or deadpan but it is a realistic delivery of speech and, in a way, stands out against the very soapy acting style (which I am not criticizing either). not everyone speaks the same, there should be room for both.

THIS.

 

Just like his 'father,' when the writing is there, Bryton always gives a lot. 

 

 

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Why in the world would they give Kyle a kid? He’s a giant baby himself, constantly running to his daddy. The kid is better off with Harrison. 
Are Sally and Jack done? That’s ridiculous that they didn’t give those 2 a chance. And enough of the Sally/Summer scenes. HK has no chemistry with the other actors. 

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Sally had sworn to make Phyllis pay for interfering with her relationship with Jack. No follow-up to that at all. You’d expect Nick to be in her crosshairs by now, since they seemed to foreshadow that when Nick walked into the Grand Phoenix after Sally made her vow of revenge.

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7 minutes ago, Faulkner said:

Sally had sworn to make Phyllis pay for interfering with her relationship with Jack. No follow-up to that at all. You’d expect Nick to be in her crosshairs by now, since they seemed to foreshadow that when Nick walked into the Grand Phoenix after Sally made her vow of revenge.

I would love for someone to take down the dumpster diving humper Phyllis. Go Sally! Why does Nick still like the tramp? 

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36 minutes ago, Chatty Cakes said:

Why in the world would they give Kyle a kid? He’s a giant baby himself, constantly running to his daddy. The kid is better off with Harrison. 
Are Sally and Jack done? That’s ridiculous that they didn’t give those 2 a chance. And enough of the Sally/Summer scenes. HK has no chemistry with the other actors. 

Jack and Sally were a horrible couple.   He's about twice her age or more!  Hunter King has chemistry with a lot of actors including those who play Kyle, Nick, Jack, Sally, Phyllis, etc.  But I agree on Kyle being "a giant baby" and "running to his daddy".   And agree on the kid, who is Harrison, likely being better off with his believed father Ashland.

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We have discussed it in the past in the context of these young characters rushing to marry but it is astonishing how eager the show is to AGE those characters.

Not only marriage and being high executives barely out of high school but now a kid? And it is an all-around thing because that outfit Summer was wearing during her conversation with Tara would have been incredibly dowdy even for a 45yo, let alone a beautiful girl in her 20s.
To make the storylines believable they have to make the character look older than they are so they have to write their dialogue, choose their wardrobe to be incredibly age-inappropriate but the other way around.

How about letting characters in their 20s have storylines that 20 yos can relate to? Heck, on a purely shallow level, Kyle and Summer are both aesthetically pleasing. Why not let them be sexy and fun instead of dressing them corporate every day?

 

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Yes, there is a lot of story to be mined from those characters being in their early 20's, learning the ropes at the business and flucking up - maybe having a sense of entitlement that contributes to that, having different relationships etc.

But having Summer and Kyle already been through 2 marriages and enthusiastically looking forward to getting hitched again is ridiculous.

Haven't they learnt how restricting that is ,especially down the road? Characters reach their 30's and have several marriages and possibly a number of kids under their belt.

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12 hours ago, David_Vickers said:

    Tuesday 6-1, tomorrow is the return date for Mishael Morgan.   I agree Karla Moseley did a great job as Amanda for the month she filled-in. 


i don’t think KM has been great at all. She might be a decent actress, but she isn’t Amanda. She smiled too much and there was no edge to her performance.

 

7 hours ago, Chatty Cakes said:

I would love for someone to take down the dumpster diving humper Phyllis. Go Sally! Why does Nick still like the tramp? 


Yeah, we know you hate Hunter King and Michelle Stafford.

 

Next.

 

23 hours ago, Paul Raven said:

The Crimson Lights,Society and Grand Phoenix sets are constantly used and there are never any customers.

They have a staff member wandering around and that's it. 

Now we know Covid and budget means they can't have extras but what gets me is they do these long shots, especially in CL which makes it clear there is no one there. The director should be using tighter shots to disguise this. And CL needs a makeover.

Still getting used to CLB with the natural hair. To me its too much - a shorter cut would look better and less 70's game show host.

And those so called suites at the Green Pumpkin with the bed as apart of the main room - such luxury!

Maybe some sort of a wall with opening to give an impression of the bedroom as a separate space,

Just some visual observations...

 


Crimson Lights had a makeover, so don’t look for another one. I agree with you about the long shots, lack of extras, etc. The Grand Phoenix rooms are horrific. Motel 6 looks more luxurious.

 

My fear is that they’re used to saving money on sets, extras, casting, etc. — and they won’t return to pre-COVID budgeting and production as the pandemic ends. I worry they’ll see no good in spending more and looking better just to keep the same audience levels. 
 

I am so tired of Lauren holding meetings at Society, and tired of so man6 character discussions taking place in the hotel lobby. It’s pathetic, and a terrible look for the #1 rated soap. Then there’s that crummy, small boardroom at Jabot. Lily and Billy operate the huge Chance Comm from her small office. The new apt. for Billy and Lily looks like pieces of the old Billy and Phyllis apt. — just arranged differently but not as nicely.

 

Should I continue?

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3 hours ago, ranger1rg said:

I am so tired of Lauren holding meetings at Society, and tired of so man6 character discussions taking place in the hotel lobby.

They can create sets like Chelsea's room at the mental health facility but no offices.

At this point, I'd settle for a generic office set that could be used for different characters.

Surely with a bit of ingenuity it could be redressed to look sufficiently different. Move the (different ) desk to an opposite side, hide a window with a bookcase, then move the bookcase to reveal it etc

I'm watching 1966 Peyton Place and the Peyton Mills office is doing double duty as the DA's office...

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8 hours ago, ranger1rg said:

The Grand Phoenix rooms are horrific.

 

Rooms? You mean room... which they recycle and re-use for different sets of people. Much like they ended up doing with the GCAC.

It reminds me of Days of Our Lives re-using the same kind of set for different sets.

 

8 hours ago, ranger1rg said:

I am so tired of Lauren holding meetings at Society, and tired of so man6 character discussions taking place in the hotel lobby. It’s pathetic, and a terrible look for the #1 rated soap. Then there’s that crummy, small boardroom at Jabot. Lily and Billy operate the huge Chance Comm from her small office. The new apt. for Billy and Lily looks like pieces of the old Billy and Phyllis apt. — just arranged differently but not as nicely.

 

The fact that the Restless Style set was Victor's old penthouse is the biggest "what the fuh" moment.

As for Jabot... I'd rather Jack's office return. It was much nicer. They could have, at least, recycled the Chancellor boardroom.

 

15 hours ago, David_Vickers said:

Jack and Sally were a horrible couple.   He's about twice her age or more!

 

Ah yes, ageism at its finest. We love to see it in 2021.

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The amount of business that takes place in Society and in the Grand Phoenix lobby of all places, is so stupid. They really should've kept Jack's Jabot office instead of the tiny boardroom.

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