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47 minutes ago, titan1978 said:

I think the issue with Vanessa is whatever she wants, Frank is unwilling to give it to her.  I always just assumed it was the terms of the contract.  The only times I have seen her say anything about him she was complimentary.  She has made it clear she does not want to be locked down in a long contract, she likes making her TV movies.  Some of that was about her kid, some about how she wants to live her life.  She is also incredibly frugal and smart with her money.

 

I love her, but I also think that unless she is going to sign on for at least two years, if not three, then the amount of story she drives is not worth the short term disruption of the entire show.  It happened with both her returns, and both times there was a huge gaping whole where Brenda was or should be for months.  How do you keep playing Sonny and her as great loves when we know she is going to leave soon?

 

On the other hand- they need star power and a shuffling of some of the decks.

 

And yes, completely ridiculous that they killed AJ off again.  And that strikes me as being in retaliation more than anything I have seen about VM.

 

4 hours ago, slick jones said:

Does anyone seriously want Brenda back under #firefrank?  He makes [!@#$%^&*] out of everything the writers try to do.  Since she's not a pet, he'd likely have her having crypt sex with Brando while Franko watches , chewing the scenery, giving a play by play....

 

Coming from the obvious biggest Vanessa/Brenda fan in the virtual room, I am indifferent on her returning.  Does she bring out good game from Mo, Ingo, Laura, and Steve?  Absolutely.  Is she the best romantic interest for both Jax and Sonny?  For sure.  Will she bring some ratings?  Yes.  But there is only so much she can bring in these short term returns, so it has  to be years (not wasted with dayplayers in fakeRome).  I 100% buy Jax and Sonny will always be in love with her forever and ever, but it's always a hard take when she leaves 5 min after professing her undying love to them.  The fact she can still unquestionably drive story means she's valuable, but it would have to be the right situation.  And I mean VM's child is 18 now so I don't think that's stopping her anymore.  I think it's more of a need/wish from FV, which I don't think has happened although I think MB pushes for it, and a meeting of Vanessa's demands, which probably don't fit in to daytime's current climate.  But I think she is one of the few daytime 'stars' that can demand her worth, so she can just wait on the call lol.

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1 minute ago, lcrtorch said:

Brenda should return with Michael's baby!  I've always believed that they slept together even though she denied it.

It would be worth it just to see the look on Sonny and Carly's faces 

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Well if Vanessa refused to play a romance with Dante, there is no way she is coming back with Michael’s kid!

 

I never thought they actually had sex.  Brenda is impulsive but not with Michael.  Jason maybe, but not Michael.  Besides she already has one problematic kid.

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It would be humorous if the show found something more objectionable than a Brenda/Dante baby and gave Michael/Brenda a kid.  Outside of the fun Carson reactions, we would probably just be subjected to sad sack Michael whining about it for eternity.

I don't think Brenda actually slept with him, but the whole scenario was bizarre and unnecessary.  Carly and AJ's reactions were good though.

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53 minutes ago, Faulkner said:

I like Juliette Jeffers (Nurse Caulfield). I wish she had an actual role. She’s been around forever.

I'm glad GH brought her back. I like her too.  Amnesiac Sonny/Mike is already grating on me.

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All this blackmail about Dev would make a lot more sense if the damn kid was still alive. Thinking about it, it really has been crazy how Cyrus has eaten the show over the past year. It's like they just decided to throw him into as many stories as they could. I wonder what the original projection for the storyline was. It can't be what we've been seeing now.

 

 

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1 hour ago, AbcNbc247 said:

All this blackmail about Dev would make a lot more sense if the damn kid was still alive. Thinking about it, it really has been crazy how Cyrus has eaten the show over the past year. It's like they just decided to throw him into as many stories as they could. I wonder what the original projection for the storyline was. It can't be what we've been seeing now.

 

 

Well before him it was Shiloh.  And Ryan.  I think it is their style to have one eat the show villain a year.

 

I do think the Laura angle was added in after they saw the scenes with Genie and the audience response to it.  There was a period of time that he was much more menacing with her than he now is, although they have explained that in the story.

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I like Michael, but this made me LOL

 

 

6 minutes ago, titan1978 said:

Well before him it was Shiloh.  And Ryan.  I think it is their style to have one eat the show villain a year.

 

I do think the Laura angle was added in after they saw the scenes with Genie and the audience response to it.  There was a period of time that he was much more menacing with her than he now is, although they have explained that in the story.

You're right. It does seem like their style, but this time around it just seems so thrown together, like they just keep piling stuff on because they don't know what to do.

 

Weaving Laura into the storyline has really helped it a lot, but I imagine that it would have been less disjointed if this had been the plan from the very beginning.

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On 1/13/2021 at 12:41 PM, lcrtorch said:

Brenda should return with Michael's baby!  I've always believed that they slept together even though she denied it.

I actually didn't like that at all. I know Brenda could be petty but that was just not a good look, imo. Brenda's presence would alone would have shook Carly. I just prefer, "I'm worth the wait" Brenda versus let me fake pretend sleeping with the love of my life's adopted son. 

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12 hours ago, Faulkner said:

I like Juliette Jeffers (Nurse Caulfield). I wish she had an actual role. She’s been around forever.


She lost a lot of weight and looks really good.

12 hours ago, victoria foxton said:

  Amnesiac Sonny/Mike is already grating on me.


Same here. And are we going to get flirting between this nurse and Sonny? The story is a mess because there’s no way he’d be missing for more than a couple days. A mob boss and no one knows him???

12 hours ago, AbcNbc247 said:

 Thinking about it, it really has been crazy how Cyrus has eaten the show over the past year. It's like they just decided to throw him into as many stories as they could. I wonder what the original projection for the storyline was. It can't be what we've been seeing now.

 

 


I hate the entire Cyrus involvement, period. Lousy character that’s not believable played by an actor who’s miscast. He’s just not someone who looks like a threat to an entire town.

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16 hours ago, ranger1rg said:

I hate the entire Cyrus involvement, period. Lousy character that’s not believable played by an actor who’s miscast. He’s just not someone who looks like a threat to an entire town.

Agreed.

 

I do find him creepy though, just not in a menacing, villainous way lol

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