The role should be played by a Vanessa Williams type (wilhelmina Slater was one note..but became the co lead cause of Williams'..imho)

Forget about recasting with a "Vanessa Williams type."  GET. VANESSA. WILLIAMS.  And not the one who most recently played Valerie on DAYS either!  If Jamey wants to save his damn show, then he needs to step it up with the casting AND with the writing!

Edited November 30, 20196 yr by Khan

Now wait lol, I feel Valerie/Soul Food Vanessa Williams is a waaaaay better actor than the other, but I do agree former popstar Vanessa Williams would've elevated the role and brought them more viewers. So many people could've easily played the role tbh. I just don't get how they settled on Robin Givens.

4 hours ago, Khan said:

Forget about recasting with a "Vanessa Williams type."  GET. VANESSA. WILLIAMS.  And not the one who most recently played Valerie on DAYS either!  If Jamey wants to save his damn show, then he needs to step it up with the casting AND with the writing!

 

I assume Vanessa Williams is too expensive for them though. I imagine that Givens is willing to do this on the cheap.

Lol I love reading this thread back. Even though I’m still extremely bitter towards Jamey and all the sh!t he used to talk on AMC (like I still get heated thinking bout it), he seemed to work extremely hard for this and I hope they get to continue on another cycle at least w/some more help😩

Other than Vanessa Williams (Willheima Slater), what other actress could play Stephanie and not be a cartoon?  Other than VW, who else is there?  

10 hours ago, te. said:

I assume Vanessa Williams is too expensive for them though.

 

But, she's worth every penny -- in star power, if not in skill set.  So, I say, make the necessary cuts -- surely, "Ambitions" has a few cast members they could jettison -- and do it.

 

12 hours ago, Chris B said:

Now wait lol, I feel Valerie/Soul Food Vanessa Williams is a waaaaay better actor than the other, but I do agree former popstar Vanessa Williams would've elevated the role and brought them more viewers.

 

Exactly.  I'm not saying she's the Black Meryl Streep.  I'm saying she's an actress who could, under the right circumstances, bring more "eyeballs" to a struggling show like "Ambitions."  Her cache, if you will, among urban audiences is way higher than Robin Givens'.

 

48 minutes ago, Soaplovers said:

Other than Vanessa Williams (Willheima Slater), what other actress could play Stephanie and not be a cartoon?  Other than VW, who else is there?  

 

Maybe Vivica A. Fox?

Edited November 30, 20196 yr by Khan

1 hour ago, Khan said:

 

 

Maybe Vivica A. Fox?

 

I was 100% in your corner until you went there 😕

It probably would have been a step up for Vivica after psychic TV commercials and flop talk shows...

4 hours ago, ChitHappens said:

I was 100% in your corner until you went there 😕

 

I said MAYBE, @ChitHappens.  

 

3 hours ago, BetterForgotten said:

It probably would have been a step up for Vivica after psychic TV commercials and flop talk shows...

 

Not to mention all those "Wrong" movies she produces and co-stars in for LMN.   

Edited December 1, 20196 yr by Khan

Michele Val Jean seems pressed that Ambitions isn't getting the same type of acknowledgement for having an all-black writers room that Tia Mowry's show on Netflix is getting/got. 

 

Though I have great respect for her as a soap opera writer, it's crap like this that pisses me off about people who claim to fight for diversity and inclusion. This shouldn't be a damn contest - if one of your big gripes is not getting the same attention for something we have so little of and need more of, then you're not fighting for any type of cause [other than yourself] at all. 

 

 

Wait, you mean a room full of Black writers came up with dialogue that terrible?

 

On second thought, maybe there SHOULD be more inclusiveness in writers' rooms.

Maybe because I watched a trailer from a movie that was embedded on the ShadowandAct blog but a few OWN shows appeared on the YouTube page and I noticed that Ambitions was on there.  It doesn't make sense for me to watch those episodes since I don't get OWN but I went to the social media page and saw that Rick Hearst is supposed to be on an upcoming episode. 

Also, some people were lobbying for Sonia Satra to appear on the show, lol.  Strange, I'd have thought that people would be suggesting Amelia Marshall since so many have claimed Gilly and Alan-Michael not being paired was a disappointment.

Edited December 4, 20196 yr by DramatistDreamer

Rick Hearts was on tonight's show and right now Ambitions is the 2nd highest trend on Twitter. This is the highest the show has ever trended even higher than during the mid-season finale that is had a while ago. (Where a lot of big stuff happened that got people talking). It looks like a lot of people are enjoying/talking about tonight's episode. 

Twitter hype is very superficial, where are the ratings to back it up?