Members ChitHappens Posted June 20, 2019 Author Members Share Posted June 20, 2019 Not that I'm defending Jamey, HELLO NO, but that was just me stating that [about Pose] because folks here thought Pose would bury Ambitions. Cartoon villains and poor writing don't seem to be a problem for OWN shows. For some odd [REALLY ODD Please register in order to view this content ] reason, HAHN still has a following. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Vee Posted June 20, 2019 Members Share Posted June 20, 2019 (edited) Ambitions beat Pose. Credit where it's due, I didn't think it had a chance at that. Quality is not the relevant conversation, eyes are so bringing up that Pose is 'better' is pointless. But I hate Ryan Murphy so it's all gucci Edited June 20, 2019 by Vee 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members John Posted June 20, 2019 Members Share Posted June 20, 2019 yes there is room for both plus the way OWN & FX rerun these shows it can help both with their numbers 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members xtr Posted June 26, 2019 Members Share Posted June 26, 2019 I enjoyed tonight's show. I think it was a bit more toned down from the premiere. Rondell continues to be one of my favorite characters so far on this show. She was cracking me up tonight, with a lot of her comments. Please register in order to view this content I like Kent the councilman/rival of Evan's who is trying to help her and it looks like he will be a love interest for her. I think him and her will get together. Though, maybe she still might get with Greg Peters later on. I think that her and Greg have good chemistry as well. I was a little surprised to see that Mrs. Carlisle was involved with the attack on Rondell. She seemed like a nice enough lady, but she is showing she can get dirty too. Also, Bella annoys me. I think some of her actions are gross. I didn't like how she taped Evan and her in bed together without his permission. I do believe she will leak that footage at some point, (maybe even as early as next week). She also appears to be stringing along her athlete boyfriend Roderick, who at this point seems like a decent guy. And I continue to find Titus appealing. I do think he is being truthful by saying that he really only wants Amara. But I also think that her insecurities about his past with Stefanie could end up causing some big problems in her marriage to Titus. And it was nice to see Jamie give a shoutout to the Edge of Night, by having Mrs. Carlisle watch it and reference it as a classic. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Chris B Posted June 26, 2019 Members Share Posted June 26, 2019 The actor who plays Titus is so good and sexy! I love him and Amara. They're definitely not the cookie cutter "good" couple you normally see. So far most of the main cast is fleshed out in a more nuanced way than your typical good and bad tropes. I found this episode better than the first. The first was a pilot so naturally it has a lot to set up, but the weekly shows seem like they'll be good. The only problem for me is Robin Givens. I tried to force myself to like and understand her but week two I'm not feeling it. She has moments, particularly with Brian White who plays her husband, but her acting is just BAD. This accent and bizarre line reading she does takes me out of the scenes. The dialogue is soapy and over the top yes, but good actors sell it. You can't be a Dynasty, Y&R or Dallas fan and not know that. Jamey said that so many people wanted that role but they saw Robin and knew she was Stephanie. I think that is a damn lie. They needed a name to anchor the show and she's probably the biggest name they could get. As time goes on I wonder if I'll grow to like her or if she'll truly settle in. Her role is too important to be played by such a and actor. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members BetterForgotten Posted June 26, 2019 Members Share Posted June 26, 2019 Givens is terrible. I keep thinking whenever I see promos for HATHN, that Tika Sumpter would be better as Stephanie. I know she's a bit younger, but I could totally buy her in that role as she's about the only decent thing about HATHN. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Khan Posted June 26, 2019 Members Share Posted June 26, 2019 Yes. This is scientific fact and should be printed inside every student's textbook. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Vanguardian Posted June 26, 2019 Members Share Posted June 26, 2019 (edited) With the exception of a few bad acting moments, I actually like this show. It feels like the old-fashioned, slow-build soaps of the past. Plenty of sex but not a whole lot of camp/craziness a la THATHN or ILYIW. It definitely makes you feel like some shockers are coming though. Rondell is great as the comedy relief character alongside the more serious, uppity characters on the show. Edited June 26, 2019 by Vanguardian 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members ChitHappens Posted June 26, 2019 Author Members Share Posted June 26, 2019 Tika is not so great either. There are tons of black woman who would slay this role so but Givens is a "name" and they can afford her. Let's have fun. Who would you cast? Nia Long!!!!!!!!!!! Sanai Lathan Anjanue Ellie... 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Vanguardian Posted June 26, 2019 Members Share Posted June 26, 2019 Taraji P. Henson. Of course, she would have to shed her "Cookie Lyon" persona which I think she could do effortlessly. The bottomline is that Miss Henson has the bad girl aspect down pat, and would slay in the role of Stephanie. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members ChitHappens Posted June 26, 2019 Author Members Share Posted June 26, 2019 Taraji lost that edge and simply turned Cookie into a hood rat. S1, she was everything I'd be looking for in Stefanie. Not now! I purposely left her off the list. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members KMan101 Posted June 26, 2019 Members Share Posted June 26, 2019 (edited) I've never been a Givens fan. I'm glad most share my thoughts. She's not great and is over the top bad. Edited June 26, 2019 by KMan101 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Vee Posted June 26, 2019 Members Share Posted June 26, 2019 I forgot about this. I'll have to watch. Please tell me the dialogue has finally ramped beyond "My husband, the mayor of this fair city, and I, his wife of the prominent family etc etc...." 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Chris B Posted June 26, 2019 Members Share Posted June 26, 2019 Yes that was gone. Less exposition and more of the stories moving. This episode I feel focused more on the supporting cast and the preview for next week looks to develop some of the other supporting characters as well. It had a good balance. As much as I love Rondell and just looking at buzz I wouldn't be surprised if she takes on a bigger role in season two or the second half of season one if they haven't already filmed it. I can't see Givens remaining as the star. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Vanguardian Posted June 26, 2019 Members Share Posted June 26, 2019 By the way, I can't believe that neither myself, nor anyone else has mentioned last night's shout out. Stephanie's gangsta mama watches classic episodes of The Edge of Night. Please register in order to view this content 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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