Getting past the initial shock it was a pretty strange case tbh. It seemed like the entire rest of the family (including the parents) were implying the nephew was deeply unwell and had a long history. That doesn't mean they can't have all lined up behind Ricky to shut him up and secure the bag, of course.

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4 hours ago, Vee said:

Getting past the initial shock it was a pretty strange case tbh. It seemed like the entire rest of the family (including the parents) were implying the nephew was deeply unwell and had a long history. That doesn't mean they can't have all lined up behind Ricky to shut him up and secure the bag, of course.

I just saw the headline (it’s been a pretty busy day) and didn’t one of Ricky’s managers quit over these allegations, claiming that she was tired of protecting Martin? What was that about? 
Strange indeed. And makes me wonder whether there may be lasting damage from this since the allegations were so heinous.

2 hours ago, DramatistDreamer said:

I just saw the headline (it’s been a pretty busy day) and didn’t one of Ricky’s managers quit over these allegations, claiming that she was tired of protecting Martin? What was that about? 
Strange indeed. And makes me wonder whether there may be lasting damage from this since the allegations were so heinous.

That's news to me if so. I do know he is in a money dispute with one of his ex-reps/managers who made a point of claiming she shielded him from a 'potentially career-ending allegation,' which is clearly this.

2 hours ago, DramatistDreamer said:

I just saw the headline (it’s been a pretty busy day) and didn’t one of Ricky’s managers quit over these allegations, claiming that she was tired of protecting Martin? What was that about? 
Strange indeed. And makes me wonder whether there may be lasting damage from this since the allegations were so heinous.

Same. One does wonder.

 

And one of his manager said that? Wow.

16 minutes ago, Taoboi said:

Same. One does wonder.

 

And one of his manager said that? Wow.

Ex-manager and she’s suing Martin, so there’s that.

It’s just really tangled and being hit with all these negative allegations with people who have supposedly known him for a long time just paints a unfortunate picture. He’s doing something at the Hollywood Bowl, so for now, there doesn’t seem to be any negative blowback.

13 minutes ago, DramatistDreamer said:

Ex-manager and she’s suing Martin, so there’s that.

It’s just really tangled and being hit with all these negative allegations with people who have supposedly known him for a long time just paints a unfortunate picture. He’s doing something at the Hollywood Bowl, so for now, there doesn’t seem to be any negative blowback.

I see.

 

I agree. Since one of my jobs is in the postal industry, I can say I still see him  on plenty of covers whether it is about his music, being a representative of gay people, or just in magazines about his home decor. And he's been highly visible from what I can tell in the last year or so. So I am really curious to see how this will be handled. 

49 minutes ago, Taoboi said:

I see.

 

I agree. Since one of my jobs is in the postal industry, I can say I still see him  on plenty of covers whether it is about his music, being a representative of gay people, or just in magazines about his home decor. And he's been highly visible from what I can tell in the last year or so. So I am really curious to see how this will be handled. 

Same.

From what I read in Spanish language blogs, commentary, it was very harsh. That was when the news of the allegation was originally reported. I haven’t read anything since then though.

This case is a good example of why allegations are just that and there should either be publication bans until conviction or mandatory retractions should be part of law.

It's often said that people are convicted on page 1 and vindicated on page 23. 

8 hours ago, DramatistDreamer said:

Same.

From what I read in Spanish language blogs, commentary, it was very harsh. That was when the news of the allegation was originally reported. I haven’t read anything since then though.

I believe it. Twitter melted down for two days straight. In more ways than one to boot. It had actually finally lessened until the news above from what I can tell. So...I wait to see if just the allegation will still hit his brand. 

3 hours ago, DaytimeFan said:

This case is a good example of why allegations are just that and there should either be publication bans until conviction or mandatory retractions should be part of law.

It's often said that people are convicted on page 1 and vindicated on page 23. 

THIS.

 

And now...has the damage been done? 🤔

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Even though I can’t really express much familiarity with his work, that clip of interviews with the exes of Armie Hammer is chilling. Also, it seems as if that Surviving R. Kelly docuseries has really opened up a whole sub genre of television.