4 hours ago, YRBB said:

 

You make a good point -- they did find ways to make it worse and worse. I wasn't watching regularly at that point, so I'm glad I missed that. That decision is reinforced everytime I hear about something I missed. That being said, in a way it didn't matter much (at least to me) because even when they still had J.T. hating him or whatever, the writing was clearly on Kevin's side -- and I was all the way done.

 

 

Oh, yes, it would be nice if they had Kevin return to his true self and write him off like that.

 

Without a doubt, Kevin's initial story was really good. For me, it was riveting stuff. Hell, I was even OK with the sudden retcon of him being Michael's brother. If the show had remained honest about the character and took a longterm approach at possibly redeeming him, it could have worked. Even better, he could have been further redemption for MICHAEL if he remained murderous and psychotic, and Michael had to deal with his own brother's misdeeds and "punished" by them. But, noooo -- apparently, they fell in love with him and had to defend him at any cost. And, yes, that sh!t stank of Smith and we are STILL seeing the repercussions today.

 

Yes to all of this ...

Sad to see a long time character like Kevin go. 

On 5/6/2017 at 1:01 PM, YRBB said:

Without a doubt, Kevin's initial story was really good. For me, it was riveting stuff. Hell, I was even OK with the sudden retcon of him being Michael's brother. If the show had remained honest about the character and took a longterm approach at possibly redeeming him, it could have worked. Even better, he could have been further redemption for MICHAEL if he remained murderous and psychotic, and Michael had to deal with his own brother's misdeeds and "punished" by them. But, noooo -- apparently, they fell in love with him and had to defend him at any cost. And, yes, that sh!t stank of Smith and we are STILL seeing the repercussions today.

 

The whole reason he stayed on the show for so long & was even considered "redeemable" in the first place was because of the character he raped.

 

Had it been ANY other character (besides that characters mother and/or aunt) Rikaart would've been gone in six months.

Edited May 8, 20178 yr by DeeeDee

Todd Manning didn't rape Olivia or Mamie along with his friends and managed to become OLTL's leading man with several ladies fighting over him. However people would call him a rapist for years and years. Your point is that Kevin's past has been forgotten and he had become his show's cute guy with issues, right?

 

I like the actor though, I would like to see him on another soap.

I'm shocked tbh. I thought he would go down with the Y&R ship when it finally got cancelled as the sub-par Fronsian ABC soap that JFP and Pratt were turning it into! This is a good move by Y&R and Sussman. For so long the official line at Y&R was that GR was an Emmy-winning 'fan favorite' -- completely at odds with what we see on soap forums. Same rationale for keeping Liz Hendricksen around as long at they did. Now all the need to do is recast Victoria with an actress with some actual charisma and fire in her belly.

I'll settle for a Victoria recast with better grooming.

20 minutes ago, Khan said:

I'll settle for a Victoria recast with better grooming.

Or a Skank with better acting. 

1 hour ago, Khan said:

I'll settle for a Victoria recast with better grooming.

 

Edited May 8, 20178 yr by Cat

19 hours ago, DeeeDee said:

 

The whole reason he stayed on the show for so long & was even considered "redeemable" in the first place was because of the character he raped.

 

Had it been ANY other character (besides that characters mother and/or aunt) Rikaart would've been gone in six months.

 

wait, Michael or Kevin? Did Kevin rape someone? I'm confused. 

 

anyway, let's be honest with ourselves - Kevin's not conventionally good-looking, so there's no bias there. I mean nuAdam comes on the scene, and because he's hunky it's like peeps are OK w/ all the crap he pulled... w/ no genuine redemption whatsoever. 

13 hours ago, Khan said:

I'll settle for a Victoria recast with better grooming.

3 hours ago, dio said:

 

wait, Michael or Kevin? Did Kevin rape someone? I'm confused. 

 

anyway, let's be honest with ourselves - Kevin's not conventionally good-looking, so there's no bias there. I mean nuAdam comes on the scene, and because he's hunky it's like peeps are OK w/ all the crap he pulled... w/ no genuine redemption whatsoever. 

 

Kevin raped (statutory) Lily.  They met on the internet when Lily was 15 and began secretly dating. He gave her a STI (gonorrhea) but they couldn't prove it because no one knew about the relationship so there was no cause to force Kevin to be tested. It was definitely Kevin because Lily hadn't been with anyone else.  

Rape is rape.

 

That was the whole point of the initial story.

 

If Kevin had raped any other girl on the canvas there's no way he would've been a candidate for redemption.

On ‎5‎/‎6‎/‎2017 at 1:01 PM, YRBB said:

 

 

Oh, yes, it would be nice if they had Kevin return to his true self and write him off like that.

 

 

I would love to see him written off that way. Him going back into his true self as in a silver chipmunk or try to hurt somebody else and he fails as somebody see's him and they kill him to save the person.

 

Sadly it won't happen. I think they are setting him up to meet with Chloe and probably takes Bella with him so they have  a happily ever after which is more then legacy characters were given.

 

Not sad to see him go, I wasn't a fan of his character and he was hardly shown anyway and when he was it wasn't believable to be working at the police station with Paul Williams or that he always got away with what he did to Colleen and Lily. He had no jail time at all? The crimes were heinous and he skated.

Edited May 9, 20178 yr by YRestlessfan

11 hours ago, ChitHappens said:

 

Kevin raped (statutory) Lily.  They met on the internet when Lily was 15 and began secretly dating. He gave her a STI (gonorrhea) but they couldn't prove it because no one knew about the relationship so there was no cause to force Kevin to be tested. It was definitely Kevin because Lily hadn't been with anyone else.  

 

was this ever validated, tho? I thought they were trying to push this whole "close call" type of story, where Lily had ALMOST slept with danger, etc? I can't say I was too interested, tbh. I only perked up interest when he locked Coleen in the freezer and tried to burn the restaurant down. 

 

i still have no idea how he was able to live that down? Gotdamn.  

Edited May 9, 20178 yr by dio

Yes. Kevin gave Lily gonorrhea and Dru was out for blood. Because the relationship was secret, Kevin couldn't be charged with statutory rape. Lily couldn't get anyone to back her up that she was dating Kevin so it came down to he said/she said.  He got away with it. 

 

11 hours ago, DeeeDee said:

Rape is rape.

 

That was the whole point of the initial story.

 

If Kevin had raped any other girl on the canvas there's no way he would've been a candidate for redemption.

 

There is a difference, thus the word "statutory". Lily understood what sex was and fully aware of what she was doing. She was just not at the age of consent.   

Edited May 9, 20178 yr by ChitHappens