Chit i agree i like Gloria actually. The show is deadly dull. Chit i actually miss JFP. I think they need Wendy Riche to come to YR shes a fan as well. Riche would be great for YR

2 minutes ago, ChitHappens said:

And I hate Gloria so much that I can't even be objective, so I have to go with those who feel her absence in Lauren's story makes zero sense. 

 

 

I can't stand Gloria either. I've never liked her. JVA was in the role such a short time that it could have been a better character had she stayed.

4 minutes ago, ChitHappens said:

Kevin and Chloe 🗣️🗣️🗣️🗣️🗣️

 

U know who make a great Gloria aka Colleen Zenk.

Following on my complaint upon reading the synopsis for Tuesday (US), I decide to see if the executive was as awful as it sounded. For the first time since pre-Pratt, I actually stopped the DVR and deleted the episode as soon as Gloria started trashing Fenmores in the steamroom. The Nick/Noah scenes made no sense and Faith and Victor playing chess to classical music? Ugh. Chloe in a trenchcoat at a police station? EH looks great, but seriously seeing Kevin and Chloe rolling around was icky. 

 

Sorry, but for a show with as many rich and long-standing characters, actors and history, there is zero excuse for this level of boredom. NONE. Trying to slow-burn Villy only to undo it when Bella's paternity is revealed doesn't work. A suddenly single and free Phyllis - looking as hot as ever - has ZERO male prospects? How about a hot hook-up with the investor from Chicago in the steamroom to kick-off her new outlook on life? Ugh. I'm so disappointed.

The only way these Gloria shenanigans can payoff is if Lauren (not Michael, not Kevin, not Phyllis) discovers that Gloria sabotaged her negotiations and a confrontation ensues where Lauren reads the hell out of Gloria and personally tells her mother-in-law to stay the hell out of her business and warns her of the consequences of meddling ever again.

As a result, if Gloria truly gets 'the boot' from the Fenmores storyline, then I can see there being some rationale to all of this scenery chewing.

 

Lauren needs agency in her own storyline and grabbing the onus away from Gloria and putting her foot down with everyone else and becoming the real Boss Lady could help finally establishing Lauren as the focus of this story.

 

Having *itch Lauren show herself might be a start.

Edited January 10, 20178 yr by DramatistDreamer

Its terrible how wasted Gina Tognoni is on the show. I think her contract is up this year. She deserves much better then this crap. SallUGH is the worst hack i think i have ever seen in omy life. 

 

 

An example of Gina having amazing material written by Jean Passanante and Shelly Altman. SallUGH should take note.

Edited January 10, 20178 yr by JONNYSBRO

4 hours ago, Darn said:

I quit the first time because this show bizarrely decided to hand the show over to 60+ year old Gloria 10 years ago. It made no sense then and makes no sense now and the things she's done since John's death will never ever make sense.

 

And guess who was Associate Head Writer when Gloria was front and center 10 years ago? Sally Sussman.

1 hour ago, GregNYC said:

 

And guess who was Associate Head Writer when Gloria was front and center 10 years ago? Sally Sussman.

 

I guess SS time going to be short live. I wonder what other recycle writer they going to get back.

Lord In Heaven......GET GLORIA OFF MY TV SET!! she is truly enough to get me to stop watching the entire show. 

Yea, this week has been awful.  A complete and utter disappointment.

 

 

I'm giving this regime the requisite six months but thus far (beyond a few very small changes) I'm not impressed.

Lauren's story needs to be about Lauren. Not Gloria, Kevin, and Michael. Not Phyllis and Jack's reunion either. When this story started with jack wanting Fenmore's and phyllis conveniently working with Lauren, I knew it was doomed. 

Edited January 11, 20178 yr by ajsp35801

2 hours ago, GregNYC said:

 

And guess who was Associate Head Writer when Gloria was front and center 10 years ago? Sally Sussman.

 

1 hour ago, MoTheGreat said:

 

I guess SS time going to be short live. I wonder what other recycle writer they going to get back.

Ugh....why did SS think we'd want to see Gloria again??

 

 

Is her stay long term or short term? I thought it was short term? I know someone posted her return on the spoiler thread.

1 minute ago, Soapsuds said:

 

Ugh....why did SS think we'd want to see Gloria again??

 

She must don't know that Gloria was one of the reason she was let go in the first place.

16 minutes ago, ajsp35801 said:

Lauren's story needs to be about Lauren. Not Gloria, Kevin, and Michael. Not Phyllis and Jack's reunion either. When this story started with jack wanting Fenmore's and phyllis conveniently working with Lauren, I knew it was doomed. 

 

Exactly.