35 minutes ago, MoTheGreat said:

 

Please tell me how because LH only did the doe act well. She wasn't the best actress.

Just certain mannerisms. That's all.

Right now when I watch the show I feel like I'm visiting with old friends, but old friends who don't really have any news.  It's an enjoyable hour, but I find myself wanting a little more.

3 hours ago, DeeeDee said:

Judith Chapman is devouring every bit of furniture on that set.

 

That's how soap viewers love their stars. If you're not chewing scenery or playing every scene OTT/campy, you're "boring". There is no room for subtlety or  understated  performances on soaps. 

Edited January 9, 20178 yr by ajsp35801

39 minutes ago, Juliajms said:

Right now when I watch the show I feel like I'm visiting with old friends, but old friends who don't really have any news.  It's an enjoyable hour, but I find myself wanting a little more.

 

Same

 

See i love Judith she brings entertainment to a dull show.

 

8 hours ago, DRW50 said:

Jack needs to be recast or written out IMO.

 

Agree.  As played as PB, Jack just can't measure up to John as Abbott family patriarch.

 

In fact, aside from Ashley and Traci, I don't see what purpose the Abbotts serve anymore on Y&R.

 

I've been wanting to follow Sally Sussman's lead and just overlook or sidestep the past ten years.  However, I have to say that doing so is...tough.  Many, many characters are damaged, IMO, and it's not so easy to overlook that fact.

Edited January 9, 20178 yr by Khan

2 hours ago, KMan101 said:

 

Told ya she was chewing that scenery HEAVY today, LOL

 

You weren't wrong. She was verging on silent film territory toward the end of her conversation with Jack.

1 hour ago, ajsp35801 said:

 

That's how soap viewers love their stars. If you're not chewing scenery or playing every scene OTT/campy, you're "boring". There is no room for subtly or understaredunderstated  performances on soaps. 

 

+1. And it's affected characterization because the less soap writers focus on traditional soap archetypes they have to skew the canvas to ridiculous degrees to keep the show watchable. That coupled with incessant moral relativism has almost totally ruined modern soap operas.

14 minutes ago, DeeeDee said:

 

You weren't wrong. She was verging on silent film territory toward the end of her conversation with Jack.

 

+1. And it's affected characterization because the less soap writers focus on traditional soap archetypes they have to skew the canvas to ridiculous degrees to keep the show watchable. That coupled with incessant moral relativism has almost totally ruined modern soap operas.

 

LOL. It was hilarious but for all the wrong reasons. At least she ... gives it her all?

 

+1

45 minutes ago, KMan101 said:

 

LOL. It was hilarious but for all the wrong reasons. At least she ... gives it her all?

 

+1

 

I don't like this Gloria, she's too much at the wrong time.

Edited January 9, 20178 yr by MoTheGreat

2 hours ago, Juliajms said:

Right now when I watch the show I feel like I'm visiting with old friends, but old friends who don't really have any news.  It's an enjoyable hour, but I find myself wanting a little more.

Ha...that's Kay Alden's writing to a tee. I know Sussman is the HW but it all smells of Kay.

8 minutes ago, MoTheGreat said:

 

I don't like this Gloria, she's too much at the wrong time.

 

I agree. It was unbelievably over the top.

17 hours ago, DramatistDreamer said:

If Terry Lester (RIP) were in the role, he'd make sure TPTB put some 'respeck' on Jack's name! Sadly, Peter Bergman is no Terry Lester.

No comparison. He was just as good on ATWT. His meltdown scenes in confessing to Neil's murder were great!

10 hours ago, DRW50 said:

Jack needs to be recast or written out IMO.

If they haven't recast Nick by now they will never ever recast Jack or write him off.

I think the show has improved...but it's only been a month...and Rome wasn't built in a day. 

 

I think Sussman is trying the re-establish character and motivation...while trying to finish off pratt's stories.  Mariah vs hilary started under Pratt...and I'm hoping that it wraps up..or changes the them teaming up...since Mariah isn't exactly a goody goody.

 

With that said...a visit de om gloria on occasion is ok...but she's too over the top.  I like more subdued performances.....kinda wish that Ashley was recast with Brenda E ( the Ashley I remember)

4 hours ago, ajsp35801 said:

 

That's how soap viewers love their stars. If you're not chewing scenery or playing every scene OTT/campy, you're "boring". There is no room for subtlety or  understated  performances on soaps. 

 

That's why most soap stars popular in daytime fail to make it to the big screen. Daytime likes the campy actors, while the big screen prefers understated and subtle actors.

33 minutes ago, GregNYC said:

 

That's why most soap stars popular in daytime fail to make it to the big screen. Daytime likes the campy actors, while the big screen prefers understated and subtle actors.

 

Critics like them. The average viewer tends to not need or want subtlety. I can't think of many film stars in recent years who have been subtle.