LOL if you say so

 

Well its true. Nothing about Wyatt is original. He has wanted everything Liam has had since day one. He's redundant

 Wait I LOVE their latest theme music! It's a shimmering masterpiece

 

But the current (and last few) cuts have been abysmal -- it worked really well when they first released this new version when things were more fluid & natural with the production. Now that people have come & gone, it feels way more choppy with all the new inserts and jump cutting being added in.

 

I'm OK with the theme music although the original will always be the best.

 

That's why these credits were such a stupid idea. The moment the number of cast members changed (which was sure to happen soon enough), the whole thing could not be edited to the music anymore and would thus easily come off as a badly thrown together mess.

 

Shortsighted, but somewhat pretty occasionally, just like Brad's writing.

Edited November 19, 201510 yr by YRBB

While I do think Wyatt needs a different direction, I don't get the hate, but that's me.  They need Wyatt out of Liam's past women for sure. I like him with Ivy but it seems that, too won't last.  It's Thomas I can't stand. He's a pervy creep and Brad wants this to be Thomas' main attribute? Gross . The new opening looks bad. Thorsten looks terrible and the back and forth between the new and older actor shots are so obvious as to look unprofessional. 

How come Ivy/Wyatt/Steffy/Liam have 0 story going on yet they are on all the time instead of characters who do seem to (somewhat) have a story.

 

I said it before and I'll say it again.  I don't get what the attraction to Wyatt is. He only really wants whatever Liam has.  As boring as Liam is, at least he lives his life.  Wyatt had to have Hope.  He got her.  He griped about his house and wanted Liam's because it was bigger and better.  He wanted Liam's job and didn't understand why he couldn't have it.  He wanted Ivy, and got her.  Now he's sniffing over Steffy, just to make sure he might be able to have what Liam has. Wyatt is a total weasel.  And it's hysterical that he sees what Thomas is doing and has the utter nerve to say things about Thomas' character.  A weasel will know a weasel, honey.  And yes, Thomas is a total perv and skeeve.  But when Wyatt trying to twist his brain around it and talking dreck about people not respecting relationships and boundaries.....hun, you and your Mom have never played by any rules.  Welcome to your own world.

 

100% the truth

Steffy and Liam have no story but Wyatt and Ivy most certainly do. Steffy really hasnt been on that much. Liam at least has been an annoying supporting player in the Caroline pregnancy

While I do think Wyatt needs a different direction, I don't get the hate, but that's me.  They need Wyatt out of Liam's past women for sure. I like him with Ivy but it seems that, too won't last.  It's Thomas I can't stand. He's a pervy creep and Brad wants this to be Thomas' main attribute? Gross . The new opening looks bad. Thorsten looks terrible and the back and forth between the new and older actor shots are so obvious as to look unprofessional. 

Why needs to go.  He's unnecessary.  Too much water under the bridge.  Liam needs a rival not related to him.  

2 whole days and no one talked about the damn show. Just the opening...lol

 

Yesterday, I mentioned that the show was painfully boring (or something like that).

I don't expect anything from a show with Sweeps focused on Ridge's nuts!  How, in today's climate, do you flop a transgender story and a mental illness story in the same year?  BB should still be the most talked about show.  TIIC forget why they begin a story and then it amounts to nothing.  The show is downright horrible.  I can't remember the last time I enjoyed the show beyond 2 or 3 eppies since $$ and Brooke's affair.  I only tune in when I know Mama & Papa will be on and Maya's impending heartbreak.  

While I do think Wyatt needs a different direction, I don't get the hate, but that's me.  They need Wyatt out of Liam's past women for sure. I like him with Ivy but it seems that, too won't last.  It's Thomas I can't stand. He's a pervy creep and Brad wants this to be Thomas' main attribute? Gross . The new opening looks bad. Thorsten looks terrible and the back and forth between the new and older actor shots are so obvious as to look unprofessional. 

Why needs to go.  He's unnecessary.  Too much water under the bridge.  Liam needs a rival not related to him.  

2 whole days and no one talked about the damn show. Just the opening...lol

 

Yesterday, I mentioned that the show was painfully boring (or something like that).

 How, in today's climate, do you flop a transgender story and a mental illness story in the same year?  BB should still be the most talked about show.    The show is downright horrible.  

Both stories should still be playing out. Both were done at warp speeds and made zero sense…..although I never understood why the whole Rick/Maya vs everyone else on the show went poof too……This show has zero going on right now…..the supposed stories they do have are boring as hell……the show is awful.

Edited November 19, 201510 yr by Soapsuds

B&B decided to try to canonize Maya, instead of making her a human being that has flaws like everyone else.  B&B also made Rick go from a schmuck to being instantly and wholeheartedly unquestioningly accepting, no questions asked.  What's left to work with in a drama when the two biggest parts of the transgender storyline have no complexity in how they relate to each other and the world around them?  It was too black and white, you're either instantly and unconditionally supportive or you're a total bigot who should be regarded as a total outcast and pariah.  Just. Basic.

 

Ally's mental illness story took the express lane to a sloppy conclusion that became about Steffy and her world and nothing to do with Ally or hers.  Just one example- we had to listen to Ridge bleat out stock poetry while Thorne was almost offscreen most of the time.  He wasn't even entitled to more than an episode and a half to express himself.  Thorne wasn't even entitled to his own grief.  

 

Soon, all we had was Maya and Rick dodging food truck bullies and the memory of Ally and Thorne all but disappeared and used as a means of Ivy and Steffy to fight over like a rag doll, whose entitled to feel more aggrieved.  Ugh.

 

As for Caroline and Ridge, I already expressed my thoughts on their storyline- I expect that to fall flat soon too, if not torpedo.

B&B was more than fine for the most part of this year. Could they have dug deeper into some of the underlying issues of their stories (Maya, Aly, Brooke), absolutely. But overall from last fall, to mid Summer, it was the best thing in daytime.

Now I just can't even be bothered with it. Not surprising, consistency has never been their strong suit. Even when it was at its best the past year, they had some awful moments.

I'll wait for their next ressurgence, until then...I'll watch every now and then.

Monday and Tuesday's shows were so baaaaaad.

HATE NuThomas. Hate Ivy & Wyatt. Hate Ivy & THomas with a passion. Hate Wyatt & Steffy. It's just so redundant. Brad Bell better quickly axe the Thomas/Ivy story 'cause it's tanking on all levels. It tells a lot when the superflous Bill&Katie nicknagging with Liam about making a bouquet of roses (WTF!? - seriously Patrick Mulcahey, thatw as the best you came up with looking at the sh*tty story outline for the episode!?) was the highlight of the day. And before I forget to mention it again: I HATE NuThomas. Even moreso than Wyatt.

Where's Brooke snooping around? or Ma and Pa Avant? They are the only ones next to Quinn to make this show watchable these days.

B&B was more than fine for the most part of this year. Could they have dug deeper into some of the underlying issues of their stories (Maya, Aly, Brooke), absolutely. But overall from last fall, to mid Summer, it was the best thing in daytime.

Now I just can't even be bothered with it. Not surprising, consistency has never been their strong suit. Even when it was at its best the past year, they had some awful moments.

I'll wait for their next ressurgence, until then...I'll watch every now and then.

What stories were playing this year besides the current dreck?  

Did anyone watch today's episode?  If so, tell the truth, is it worth watching?  Is there anything different that what happened on Monday/Tuesday?  I skipped Wednesday because it didn't seem like there was anything new.  

Did anyone watch today's episode?  If so, tell the truth, is it worth watching?  Is there anything different that what happened on Monday/Tuesday?  I skipped Wednesday because it didn't seem like there was anything new.  

 

I watched and only paid attention in spurts…LOL…..Wyatt and Mama Fuller arrived in San Fran. Mama Fuller was going on and on how great San Fran was and that Wyatt should play for the same team. Mama Fuller mentioned going to eat lobsterrrrrr……and finding a hot man for her son….the rest was Steffy and Liam kissing…kissing…and yapping…..Thomas coming on to Ivy even more….and saying how he couldn't stop thinking about her….end credits…..Im sure there was more but I had better things to do like clean house….LOL

Thanks for the summary, Soapsuds.  I think I'll watch an episode of Classic ATWT on YT instead.