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GH: April 2015 Discussion Thread

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I really feel today is a great counter argument to the hundreds of posts online saying TG should go, TG sucks, TG and Luke are played out and similar thoughts. I can't think of a single other actor on the show who could pull off an episode like today the way he did, or the two Lukes meeting last year or so many other great scenes over the years. He's the best the show has, the show knows it, and he'll probably win an emmy this year and perhaps next as well.

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So GH shows they can deliver with tense drama based on history.

Searching for this episode online I caught yesterday's effort-what a contrast! Ridiculous storylines full of criminals trying to outsnark each other.

Why does the quality stuff get reduced to one off eps?

BTW Geary did a great job.He should consider a restyle because the scarecrow look distracts from his talents.

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Wonderful show and the acting was great. I hope Luke will be Luke now..Beautiful black and white scenes..loved it.

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And the thing is - so what if we guessed the truth? This story was never going to be genius, whether it was a literal evil twin (Eckert) or this mess. But at least you could still tell a coherent, cohesive story where everything adds up, and maybe settle some old stuff like dealing with the Eckerts, which I personally would have found interesting if they really had brought some people back.

Ron [!@#$%^&*] up plenty, but one thing he has consistently tried to do since taking over (with pushback, I suspect, from Tony Geary) is soften Luke up a bit, get him back in touch with his humanity and his better self. He tried a lot in his first two years, especially in trying to address Luke's drinking, which they then had to walk away from. I think they'd originally intended to use this Bill/Fluke story to highlight Luke's better nature in relation to Bill's darkness, keep slowly rebuilding the character. It would never have been a great tale in soap opera history but it could have been fun. Instead, because Ron's ego can't take a modern audience being able to connect the dots, he has to trash all that out of pique and do a story where Luke is now a psychotic criminal mastermind. For what? What's the point? What is the upshot?

Yep.

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That was a terrific eppy! Very well done!

Super good casting with the kids, and a very good use of LW. Geary, I had no doubt he could take us there, and he did.

Q, people wanted Geary gone because the "story" went on forever and the plot changed way too many times. Geary was a clown for an entire year, but yesterday pulled it together. Plot holes and all, it was a wonderful eppy.

Kind of begs the question why TIIC don't strive for excellence regularly?

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It sounds like TG has a very complicated relationship with the current management.

Ron has always haunted various boards and some of us were onto Eckert early. That also explains why, originally, they'd supposedly been casting about for an actor to appear as an adult Sly, and had considered returns for Jenny and Julia Barrett and so on. This was mid-last year, IIRC. Everything about the first year of this dumb story ties back to Eckert - the Eckerts, Barrett Industries, Fluke mentioning Tracy paying for "what she did to my sister". They dropped all that when Ron threw a fit.

Sometimes it's worth more to tell a coherent [!@#$%^&*] story as opposed to just trying to pull one over on an audience you resent. They drop so much planned stuff on this show on the fly for too many reasons, but stick to the bigger, dumber ideas forever.

Yep. Again.

TG says Elizabeth Korte wrote the episode, and if it's any good at all, I give her the credit for that and not RC.

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Yep. Again.

TG says Elizabeth Korte wrote the episode, and if it's any good at all, I give her the credit for that and not RC.

Korte wrote the entire eppy all on her own. Hmmmmm

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I really feel today is a great counter argument to the hundreds of posts online saying TG should go, TG sucks, TG and Luke are played out and similar thoughts. I can't think of a single other actor on the show who could pull off an episode like today the way he did, or the two Lukes meeting last year or so many other great scenes over the years. He's the best the show has, the show knows it, and he'll probably win an emmy this year and perhaps next as well.

Well if an episode like this is shown all the time, then yes, Geary is THE man. But let's be honest: we were extremely lucky to get this episode. Most episodes don't make sense and Luke is often made to be downright unlikable. That may work in the movies when you get to leave after 2 hours, but most of us have watched (and loved) Luke for 30 years. We don't like to continuously watch a character we don't like.

Maybe things will turn around for GH after this episode but I won't hold my breath.

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Only thing that irked me was they used the color ambulance opening. Instead of the nurses station opening.

 

 

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When will these idiots learn? The audience is always -- ALWAYS -- one step ahead of the characters. It's called dramatic irony and it's what soaps are supposed to be about. So you don't throw out everything and make an already convoluted story even more so because the audience has done their job. You just keep pulling on the taffy, to quote Bill Bell and Irna Phillips, delaying the reveal and making the writing awesome in the meantime.

Frank and Ron and everyone else certainly delayed this as long as they could...but was the end result worth all the crap we had to suffer through?

Ironically, though, I think THIS was much better than their original intent. It rewrites established history (sorry, Marland!) but it's actually much richer than what we have accepted and believed all along (again, Marland, REAL sorry!). Of course, it also kills my fantasy of having Larry Bryggman come aboard to play an older, wiser, thoroughly repentant Tim Spencer, but...sigh...whatevs.

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When will these idiots learn? The audience is always -- ALWAYS -- one step ahead of the characters. It's called dramatic irony and it's what soaps are supposed to be about. So you don't throw out everything and make an already convoluted story even more so because the audience has done their job. You just keep pulling on the taffy, to quote Bill Bell and Irna Phillips, delaying the reveal and making the writing awesome in the meantime.

Frank and Ron and everyone else certainly delayed this as long as they could...but was the end result worth all the crap we had to suffer through?

Ironically, though, I think THIS was much better than their original intent. It rewrites established history (sorry, Marland!) but it's actually much richer than what we have accepted and believed all along (again, Marland, REAL sorry!). Of course, it also kills my fantasy of having Larry Bryggman come aboard to play an older, wiser, thoroughly repentant Tim Spencer, but...sigh...whatevs.

Plus, we didn't have to sit through the boring Eckerts again.

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Meet "Luke III," his THIRD alter, a young man in his early twenties, whose idol is Sonny Corleone.

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doesn't explain why Luke was skirt chasing after Kiki for months, or why he wants Sonny's territory.

Lot's a plot holes! LOTS! I think the best part of yesterday was the we didn't expect that from FrankenRon. The performances certainly saved it! Can you imagine DeVry as Tim, Stafford as Lena and Paevey as young Luke or one of the doctors?

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