Y&R: February 2014 Discussion Thread

[sheilaforever]

Steve Burton is in no good shape (used to be way better last year); so the Tee-policy is fine by me. It is highly sexist though that Jessica Collins has to prance around naked. What gender does the primaey audience of soaps have again?

[ChitHappens]

I don't find it sexist if he is the only person allowed to do that. The other men take their shirts off all the time.

[sheilaforever]

I just don't see ANY actress on the show having tis kind of no nudity policy. I mean even Christel Khalil is more naked than him on a daily basis in those skirts. LOL

[PJA]

I think that was also a part of the goal...with the other part of him being the hero that saved Cane and Lily. Cane even said at the end, "You saved me." That's probably going to play a part in his "redemption." Of course the audience know he isn't really redeemed.

[PJA]

It sickened me as well.

JFP is a big on her clichés. How many villains have we seen been accepted after saving someone's life. I guess it could have been worse. They could have written it as if he had nothing to do with it and he still saved their lives..but at least we know he is still bad and they are not trying to whitewash him. I still dont' find his character the least bit intriguing though...never have.

[rhinohide]

I didn't mean it was misogynistic in that Steve is allowed to get away with it and the women are not. If the woman who plays Avery doesn't want to be nude, I am fine with her decision as well. I don't object to Steven saying he doesn't want to do shirtless scenes. (I kind of wish more of the men would -- because I really have no desire to see them shirtless). I think the actors' personal preferences should be respected but you have to write around that. I'm saying the scene itself, with the dialogue included, seemed very misogynistic, not only because Avery was nude and Dylan was not (that just looked weird), but because the dialogue implied she was fetching food for him and waiting on him in the nude, while he was clothed.

[rhinohide]

Well that will be ridiculous. I expect Colin will be exposed, and no one will consider him a hero in the end, because it was he who was responsible for putting everyone in danger in the first place.

[ChitHappens]

But Jill is not trying to manipulate the audience into liking this man. We know he is dirty, so now we get to see him work the others and eventually be exposed. What's wrong with that?

[PJA]

Of course she's not trying to make us like him...I even said at least they are not whitewashing him. I just find the whole storyline ridiculous that's all. I'm still not over the fact that he used some "judicial loophole" to get back in the country and the fact that Jill didn't drop him like a hot potato the minute she returned to town....oh wait she has to find out the secret about this music box so she has to stay married to him (rolls eyes)

[Khan]

LOL!

IMO, "Out of the Ashes" sealed LML's fate more on the show than the WGA strike did. CBS and SONY might have released her from her duties b/c she wouldn't cross the picket line, but I feel as if that story in particular only made their decision that much easier, if you know what I mean.

[Cyberologist]

I've gone to some SBu PA's and he' very conscious of if he's toned in love scenes he says he doesn't like shirtless scenes when he's not in shape its a bad look "for an old guy"...that may have something to do with it as well. He didn't do many on GH it was rumored his wife prohibited it but he laughed, said it was because he was too flabby or something to that effect.

[ajsp35801]

Well if he is so worried about it then he needs to work out! Make sure he keeps it tight.

[Taiah]

Excuses, excuses. Whatever Steve. There are far worst male bodies on display. His body is not THAT bad geez.

[rhinohide]

Not just yeah, but Hell Yeah!

However, everyone has different comfort levels. It doesn't bother me that he doesn't want to do it. It bothers me that they are so clumsy in how they handle it.

[ajsp35801]

Right...did you see RA/Noah when he had his shirt off last month. O_O

I saw a couple of people saying that he was hot...nnooooo. Nope.