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LOVE IT! Said weeks ago that Quinn was great and, finally... PROOF!

She's bitching left and right and I'm loving every moment.

Wyatt and Hope have GREAT chemistry. He may come off as a creep in certain scenes but he also--GASP!!--makes Hope come alive.

Maya and Carter? Bye!

As I said in the status ticker, this show is entertaining me at the moment. I turned it on again out of curiosity and I mean - I've always been unable to stand B&B. The lack of consistency in any plots, characters, etc. beyond the same two or three notes, the endless repetitive triangles that seem to have gone on since I was in grade school, the token diversity hires. But I always understood and respected that it had a rock solid formula which worked for it - even though I feel it exists in a reality beamed in from another planet, it is a global smash and will probably be the last American network soap opera standing because of that. It does what it does, it speaks its own language and it makes no apologies. And people love it. I expect Europe and other parts of the world love it that much more because of that strange world and its weird rules.

That being said, as an untrained newbie, the reason it got me this week is because I turned it on and I saw sort of the building blocks of soap opera in the storytelling and the scripts with the foursome of Bill, Brooke, Zach Ridge and Katie. I thought all four of those actors did a hell of a job, I thought some of the dialogue was actually quite good - and I usually hate B&B dialogue whenever I tune in - and I thought there was sort of a weird poetry to it, how Brooke is always the same middle-aged sex addict she's always been, deluding herself about 'following her heart' and that's just the way it is.

I may be wrong, but I have to assume that the way it works is that B&B has the last of the Bill Bell imprimatur on soap operas - people following the same emotional or psychological patterns throughout their lives, with Bill the stallion marrying neurotic Katie, or Brooke the hedonist torn between Bill and Ridge. I've always seen repetition and schlock in the past, but there is obviously something deeply-rooted to it. And it's still got a lot of international money behind it, so the show looks great. There are still business stories, and Rena Sofer is fantastic. There's a lot of things I don't like, but for the moment this brisk half-hour soap with the sort of raw building blocks of the way soaps work - primal stuff - is interesting to me. Am I nuts?

Nope, not at all. This is how I feel about the show, too. Once it gets into one of its good cycles, a lot of the stuff that you wrote about happens. Be warned, however. It will end just as quickly as it started and it will be 100% Liam/Hope soon enough.

Oh, that was awful.

It was classic Bell soap charismatic awfulness. Whether Bell Sr, Alden or Bell Jr, they would have written something like this.

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YAAAAAAS!

Edited January 5, 201411 yr by YRBB

Great banner, Cheap!

Dare I say Rena and TK have given BB new life?! Unfortunately, we will go with the incestuous Kridge (Kringe for short) instead of totally stepping out of the incest box. Besides, Katie is only interesting when she's having a heart attack. Not sure why anyone sees any potential in Kringe or even Katie for that matter!

Vee, the psychological elements you talked about have hooked me back into the show, too. It really is old school Bell stuff in examining how these patterns repeat again and again through the years. B&B has been playing all the beats and I really enjoy that.

Oh and Quinn for the win! Love it. I love how she called Liam out on his waffling. "What is it like to be you, Liam?" "Liam is back in Los Angeles and miserable, like he deserves to be."

Liam was really hot as he shot Quinn down. Finally he showed some strength and confidence. I think that was the first time I’ve ever been attracted to him

Surprised they showed R.J. again.

Wyatt & Hope WORK! Ugh at all the time spent talking about flowers but clearly it was used to build their relationship and endear Wyatt to Hope further....

WTF, they wrote Thorne out? I cant believe when they said he got shipped off to International. What is the point of Alexandra? I was hoping her return would lead to something more for him but even she feels irrelevant and a bore.

STFU Ridge! To Rick he asks why didn't he do something about Bill and Brooke. Huh? Isnt Brooke a grown ass 50 year old woman? What was Rick supposed to do? And now he makes this big stink about the HFTF line saying its changing the identity of the company yet when he was in LA, he fully supported it and put ALL the advertising budget into promoting it

Ugh to more island crap. They are by far the worst part of the show.

Brooke sure is something. She tried to rationalize her skankiness by saying the affair wouldn't have happened if Ridge hadn't dropped her. Now its his fault? Its Ridge's fault, its Katie's fault, its Bill's fault for pressuring her, its Stephanie's fault for dying, etc....everyone but her own. I love that Katie read the trashbox hooker for what she was trying to do

Edited January 7, 201411 yr by Cheap21

Ugh to more island crap. They are by far the worst part of the show.

Brooke sure is something. She tried to rationalize her skankiness by saying the affair wouldn't have happened if Ridge hadn't dropped her. Now its his fault? Its Ridge's fault, its Katie's fault, its Bill's fault for pressuring her, its Stephanie's fault for dying, etc....everyone but her own. I love that Katie read the trashbox hooker for what she was trying to do

ROTF!

Katie owned Brooke's trampy ass today! Yes lawd!

Rick needs to realize that he does not have to call his mother a whore but can acknowledge that she is a whore.

Katie owned Brooke's trampy ass today! Yes lawd!

Rick needs to realize that he does not have to call his mother a whore but can acknowledge that she is a whore.

HAHA

Add me to the petition to get Hope and Wyatt the [!@#$%^&*] out of Hawaii. Everytime I hear that Hawaiian guitar reowwww wow-wowwww, I cringe. The outdoor shots of the island are stunning and by far the best part, but why show them if Hyatt are stuck in the same hotel room day after day?

And Wyatt is so cheesy with the flower metaphors -- honey, Hope is no longer a virgin! Your brother got there first! Though it is a smart tactic on his part. Hope is almost Taylor Swift-like in her infantile worship of princesses, unicorns and rainbows and all that fairy-tale narrative. Plus Wyatt is trying to convince her that her first time with him will be as important to him as it is to her. With Liam, Hope was pushed into it by Brooke in a bid to "keep Steffy away," and Liam didn't seem overly concerned with Hope's hang-ups about it. She also had to go see a sex counselor afterwards, so I can see why she might be enticed by a possible do-over with somebody new.

Katie read Brooke today. And it was like Brooke could finally drop the pretense of "sacrificing" for the good of the faaaaaambly, because once she was out of Katie's door, she was already calling Ridge to come on over and digging out her Victoria's Secret lingerie robe.

TK and JY play really well off of each other.

Edited January 7, 201411 yr by Cat

I watched the Katie/Brooke scenes after hearing so much about them. They were really good. Katie is so over Brooke and her self-deluded games. I laughed when Katie told Brooke to show herself out. Heather Tom looked great in those leather pants. I did not like the top with it so much.

Brooke will get Ridge in the end, but I think that he will be resisting her charms for now.

Seriously, what has KKL done to her face? She has a weird large flat imprint under her left eye and smaller one under her right eye. Is that botox or fat injections gone wrong? Regardless, they have got to stop doing close ups of her.

Seriously, what has KKL done to her face? She has a weird large flat imprint under her left eye and smaller one under her right eye. Is that botox or fat injections gone wrong? Regardless, they have got to stop doing close ups of her.

Oh my God, you're right... Paging DaytimeFan here. What happened to her face? Whatever she has done... I hope it can be undone!

I'm wondering whether they are fillers that have migrated from her cheeks to just under her eye. But honestly, given the way some Hollywood peeps butcher their faces with plastic surgery (Bruce Jenner, Ashley Judd, not to mention other in the B&B cast), I do not think KKL looks bad. Yesterday I noticed that her brow had natural lines so she's not botoxing that part of her face, and good on her. She needs to emote and to do that, she needs to move her features.

Her eyes look a little pulled, but that's because KKL had an eye lift about 12 years ago. But her mouth, which has thinned over the years, remains the same. Lately her hair is looking thicker and shinier and her face looks better -- not done, necessarily, just more relaxed. Perhaps she is getting more settled in her private life, and that is what is contributing to it. She looks good, she doesn't look 25 anymore but why should 25 be the end-all and be-all?

Edited January 7, 201411 yr by Cat

I thought of taking a screencap bc her face particularly looked bad when Brooke was looking in the mirror

Darin Brooks appears to be losing his hair. He used to be so cute. The big hair and the attempt at facial fuzz make him come off like a skeeve. As do the incredibly goofy flower analogies.

I half expected Liam and Quinn to start [!@#$%^&*] during that great fight the other day.

Edited January 7, 201411 yr by Vee