Another Y&R actor out??

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December 20, 201311 yr

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I've only read through the last few pages of this thread and I feel like I need to take a bleach shower and a xanax. There's just too much crazy floating around this mess.

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December 20, 201311 yr

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I don't understand. If it was allegedly happening for awhile we're supposed to assume then that Sony and CBS just did nothing about it?

December 20, 201311 yr

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I don't understand. If it was allegedly happening for awhile we're supposed to assume then that Sony and CBS just did nothing about it?

I don't think neccessarily know that CBS actually knew about it until recently.

December 20, 201311 yr

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I don't understand. If it was allegedly happening for awhile we're supposed to assume then that Sony and CBS just did nothing about it?

Why would you assume they knew?

If true, MM surely didn't walk into the studio like, "what up? I'm gonna harass Hunter today"

December 20, 201311 yr

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If that is true, I can't help but wonder what King's parents think about that, as well as Sony and CBS. Those would be deplorable working conditions, whether or not MM was on set when HK was. That would be saying what MM did was OK.

My guess is the harassment might have been ongoing and once Jill got wind of it, she tried to handle it internally. However, MM still couldn't keep his mitts to himself and it escalated. CBS/SONY will not risk a lawsuit over this, so I doubt they knew.

December 20, 201311 yr

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Why would you assume they knew?

If true, MM surely didn't walk into the studio like, "what up? I'm gonna harass Hunter today"

If it was an on going thing I'm assuming she went to more than just JFP about it and even talked to some other cast members.

December 20, 201311 yr

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If it was an on going thing I'm assuming she went to more than just JFP about it and even talked to some other cast members.

Not the same as SONY knowing about it.

December 20, 201311 yr

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If it was an on going thing I'm assuming she went to more than just JFP about it and even talked to some other cast members.

I don't think it's a safe assumption to make. She might have confided in her fellow actors but that's not the same as the executives knowing. Even if JFP knew, it's not the same.

December 20, 201311 yr

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I don't understand. If it was allegedly happening for awhile we're supposed to assume then that Sony and CBS just did nothing about it?

Long before we knew about the Hunter King aspect, it was said by We Love Soaps that this is relating to an incident that happened in early November. With all the legalities it takes time to investigate and follow through with stuff. She can't just report it and he instantly gets fired. Similar to the Victoria Rowell/Michelle Stafford situation. She filed a complaint with Sony, they investigated and ultimately dismissed it.

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I love how everyone assumes because an actress is 19, that there is no way she could invite (or be the aggressor) towards an older man. I know plenty of teen/20 somethings that definitely go for the older guy. Like these actors/hair models are complete ingenues. Please. Until I see proof from an official source, I'm chalking this up to typical MM hate (and I'm indifferent on the actor personally). Honestly, Adam is perhaps the worst written major role in soaps during the past 10 years. It's as if the writers wanted to find myriad of ways to create a character so vile, despite the fact that this was a legacy character born on screen (not some instant kid), from a core family. Whatever. I hope the story is not true, because no one should be exposed to that kind of harassment in the workplace, but if it is, I hope someone official comments on it.

December 20, 201311 yr

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December 20, 201311 yr

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Sounds like someone who knows the truth is out...

December 20, 201311 yr

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I love how everyone assumes because an actress is 19, that there is no way she could invite (or be the aggressor) towards an older man. I know plenty of teen/20 somethings that definitely go for the older guy. Like these actors/hair models are complete ingenues. Please. Until I see proof from an official source, I'm chalking this up to typical MM hate (and I'm indifferent on the actor personally).

Get out of here with that nonsense!

How th f.ck do you admit to a mistake and, right after, make a stupid comment like "true fans know the truth"?

So he had a meeting with all his true fans and updated them?

December 20, 201311 yr

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I love how everyone assumes because an actress is 19, that there is no way she could invite (or be the aggressor) towards an older man. I know plenty of teen/20 somethings that definitely go for the older guy. Like these actors/hair models are complete ingenues. Please. Until I see proof from an official source, I'm chalking this up to typical MM hate (and I'm indifferent on the actor personally). Honestly, Adam is perhaps the worst written major role in soaps during the past 10 years. It's as if the writers wanted to find myriad of ways to create a character so vile, despite the fact that this was a legacy character born on screen (not some instant kid), from a core family. Whatever. I hope the story is not true, because no one should be exposed to that kind of harassment in the workplace, but if it is, I hope someone official comments on it.

And here we have the nasty blame the victim bullshit!

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ignore this post. sorry.

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I hated the 2006 story almost as much as they did. I agree with a lot of Genie's complaints. The 2008 stuff was much better. I thought the 2002 reunion (along with the horrific Endgame) was cartoonish, superficial and thrown together by Jill and Megan to try to save their jobs. It was far beneath the quality of material they'd been given in the late '90s, for all that period's flaws. I wanted Luke and Laura back together, but it was so badly done.
I don't think Tony and Genie were at each other's throats in the last years, or in '08 or probably much of the '90s. There were some difficult times. But I know Genie has said she spent time visiting with him in the last decade as well.

By Vee · Just now1 min
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Oh, yes... that's it. Damn, I wanted her to be something more than this. Thanks @janea4old for that info.

By Maxim · 1 minute ago1 min
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Not Lindsay Rappaport in the clip.

I'd never seen her before but the youtube closed captioning says her name is "Lindsay Butler" (but I know closed captioning is often wrong).

I looked it up.
The character, Lindsay Butler, portrayed by Anna Holbrook.

info from April 1994 usenet archive (Link)
#Lindsay Butler (Anna Holbrooke)
Putting the character details behind spoiler tag since Maxim hasn't seen all this yet

- a reporter for The Banner
- was marginally involved with Clint during the worst of his break-up with Viki
- beat out Viki for a coveted journalism award with her series on the homeless in Llanview
- - - - - - - -
Interesting. I never heard of this character before just now.

By janea4old · 3 minutes ago3 min
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I didn't get her last name yet... I'll let you know when I hear it.
And OMG... If you haven't... then you ABSOLUTELY NEED TO BUY it for Christmas! Buy it for yourself and you won't regret it. I can help with choosing translation. I think that's the most important part, because a translation can make or break a book. I've done TOO much research into it the last few days... haha.
I recommend either the Magarshack translation (Signet Classics edition - black background with the approaching train)... or the newest Bartlett translation (Oxford World Classics edition) and finally - the newest (from 2014) Marian Schwartz one (The Margellos World Republic of Letters edition).... it is amazing (the negative is that it's slower and harder to read, the sentences don't flow as well, but that can also be a positive depending what a person wants from a book) - still I think it's the closest to Tolstoy of all of them. My husband read it to me in Russian and we compared translations together. The Schwartz translation is quite expensive thought in paper, even though the kindle or the eBook may be cheap. P.S. Just checked the kindle version is 0.00 for that one and trust me... it's sublime.
So if you want to read it and feel the melodrama and the language to flow easy and not even feel like a translation - Magarshack no doubt about it, but if you want something as close as possible to Tolstoy, but a bit harder to read - Bartlett or Schwartz (both are the newest translations and they have the advantage of being based on the fullest Tolstoy text, the earlier editions have some missing sentences or parts). The Bartlett translation has a very beautiful hardcover and it's very easy to find online.
This is just my opinion, but the most popular Pavear and Volokhonsky translation... is just not as good. I read the first 50 pages and it's just so much worse compared to the other ones. But whatever edition you decide, it's still going to be okay, I think. Let me know if you start reading it! I'm still waiting for my Signet edition to arrive, and it will be sometime before Christmas.
OLTL has gotten me a bit obsessed with Anna Karenina right now. 😄 This soap just makes people want to read books and that's amazing.

By Maxim · 9 minutes ago9 min
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IIRC for a brief time the overlapping shots were Scotty fading into Laura’s shot, then the overlap between Laura and Luke. It felt deliberate to me at the time because all three shots were slowed down just a little to make the overlaps noticeable.
Part of the issue seemed to be what happened with her original waking up from being catatonic story. It was heartbreaking to watch and I thought beautiful for the most part. But both of them said they ended up feeling manipulated by what was promised versus what they got, including the wedding scenes which were not the original plan and both felt were kind of cheesy to just have her wake up and get married while Luke hid the truth from her.
Over the last few years I understand more of what both of them were complaining about. Genie felt Laura was too old to be an ingenue and that Laura had regressed repeatedly. And Tony was left kind of in limbo repeatedly when she left/and finally was by her account defacto fired by Jill. Genie was off living a life with her family and Geary was struggling to stay engaged at work and not very happy by all accounts.
Luke was often still in story, but the only time it was really meaty before 2006 was when they revisited the rape before her return in 1998. After she left in 2002 he was stuck doing stuff like the Heather Webber story and several things that involved him emoting towards or about a mop with a blond wig on it, and as the sole parent of their kids. And the grind of the material really took a toll on him. I’m not making excuses for his commentary btw, which was often just rude. I am just saying that with distance and looking at them as their real people I understand more of where both of them were coming from.
My issue with him is the fact that he acted like the Luke at the end of the show was the Luke that was there the whole time. Both of them (Tony/Luke) were older, bitter, and didn’t want to keep looking back. But we watched Luke evolve and also come crashing apart when he lost Laura. The stupid Rick Webber storyline was a huge part of why Luke became such a bastard, because he couldn’t save Laura from her own mind.
Once he was paired with Jane he hung on for dear life because he had a true partner again and IRL they were actually closer fiends than he had ever been with Genie. Both of them seemed really proud of what they had accomplished with L/L, even though it was also difficult in deeply personal ways.

By titan1978 · 22 minutes ago22 min
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Wait is this Lindsay Rappaport? I've only know the character played by Hickland.
I'm afraid to admit, but I've never read Anna Karenina. @Maxim - you've got me itching to look into the book and read it!

By alwaysAMC · 29 minutes ago29 min
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I always felt like Robin was the one woman who really intimidated Carly. She's smart, pretty, Sonny and Jason love her, the town adores her, she has tons of friends, etc. Carly always felt inferior to her. It's probably my favorite Carly rivalry. While I like Brenda/Carly as foes there really isn't that much history there besides sleeping with the same men. I don't think Carly respects Brenda and I think she secretly respects Robin.
Both are obviously better than LW's Carly screeching at women that go near Sonny or Jason today lol.
To your second point, I feel like Skye's inclusion in the Brenda return was another attempt at shoehorning the character in and gaining sympathy for poor Skye. Jax didn't need to marry her for conflict. Brenda faked her death weeks before Jax/Brenda's wedding, hid for 4 years, shacked up with Alcazar, thinks she's dying, Jax gets shot and paralyzed, Brenda marries Jason, Sonny's hanging around, Alcazar is still stalking her, and so on. That's a ton of conflict right there. Jax didn't need a wife in the mix especially when he dumps about 10 min after Brenda returned.

By carolineg · 53 minutes ago53 min
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Grotesque.

By Vee · 1 hour ago1 hr
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Or it could lead to lively discussion. ;)

I feel your POV might be echoing how I feel. When you lay out how the show started...yeah, all of those stories had builds and were oh so layered for me. And with him gone, it does seem clear that for all the flaws, MVJ and Guza balanced out each other really well. Good for Guza since it's nice to see he still has it in him after all these years and has redeem himself a little bit in my eyes from years of stuff I didn't like on GH.

Now...while I'm still enjoying...like you, I have started to have a growing feeling something is missing. Like for example, the complexity for a lot of the characters appear to be...gone? Paint-by-numbers in a way that it wasn't before? And no reveal at Winterfest...which would be a first real test for new HW...does worry me...though I enjoyed the episode overall.

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