As I've said before, that will forever remain one of my least favorite things ABCDaytime ever did. ABC fans didn't really care about Rae or Linda Dano. And you couldn't escape it because it infiltrated every show. I came to accept Skye as part of the extended Q clan and even enjoy it but there was NO reason for it.

Well P&G wouldnt lease/sell th Felecia Gallant character from AW to OLTL so OL brought back Gretel Cummings

Well P&G wouldnt lease/sell th Felecia Gallant character from AW to OLTL so OL brought back Gretel Cummings

there was nothing inherently wrong with bringing back Rae. The problem which people expressed was bringing her on every single show on the network. She wasnt that big or popular a character for a stunt like that; she was no Erica Kane. It involved a story that had major plotholes which didnt make sense. If Rae was searching for her child, shouldnt she have known the age of said child? How is it that ABC was throwing candidates such as 40 something Max Holden in there as a likely candidate along with 30 something Skye Chandler and 20 somethings Kelly Cramer and Eve Lambert? It made Rae and many other characters look quite stupid.

I think the tonal difference was very important - but at the same time, a lot of people out there took the difference to mean OLTL was now horribly misogynistic and twisted (as opposed to, you know, the Fords). When in reality the Dani and Arturo storyline (she didn't meet him on the Internet) was not that removed from Karen Wolek or the young Tina and Marco Dane.

I think they are sister shows, but they're very different siblings in many ways. And I don't think it's one show versus another anymore. I think they both had a lot to be proud of, and I think OLTL got back to some basics it hadn't had in many years while also pushing some boundaries (sometimes not enough for me). I've always loved them both.

I live for the "dudebrosoap" people glossing over the questionable pieces of Cartini's run, complaining that PP was mysognistic and disenfranchising female characters and demanding more of shirtless Cutter all in one argument.

Agree that both shows are very different and really always have been and that both have much to be proud of in these short first seasons. I've never been into AMC v OLTL or GH v OLTL or any soap wars and one of my favorite things about this board is that it really doesn't happen here. I totally look forward to AMC S2, loved S1 mostly and have loved the show for pretty much as far back as I can remember. But if AMC is still going a year from now (and I so hope that it is) & OLTL is still on PP's shelf or whatever, there will be part me wishing it had went the other way if it absolutely had to be one over the other. But that doesn't mean I won't watch & enjoy every single AMC ep that they make.

Well P&G wouldnt lease/sell th Felecia Gallant character from AW to OLTL so OL brought back Gretel Cummings

Ok well that was P&G's right I suppose as they were still in the soap business. It still didn't mean we needed Linda Dano or Rae Cummings synergizing the ABC line-up. Anyway getting off topic so I'll stop.

Edited September 7, 201312 yr by greens_dupres

ABC VP Angela Shapiro thought Rae on all 4 soaps was a good idea

ABC VP Angela Shapiro thought Rae on all 4 soaps was a good idea

she thought many things were good ideas, which turned out to be messes; this was one of them

I think the one thing these shows' return proved is that while they are tonally different - and even moreso from GH, which I regularly watched along with them in a block a la the old ABC schedule these past several months - they also go together. AMC was always supposed to be different from OLTL, and OLTL different from AMC. AMC was home and hearth, OLTL was Heaven and Hell. Watching them together again this year, where there's been a real commitment to putting out two unique shows as opposed to the Fronsian mass-produced uniformity of the last decade, has been really fun, watching those different tones and flavors next to each other for the first time in a long time. So I do hope that continues. (And yes, Carlivati's GH was a part of that too - the frothy, often frankly ridiculous of late adventure soap at the other end of the line-up.)

ABC VP Angela Shapiro thought Rae on all 4 soaps was a good idea

She was wrong. Rae was terrible. Everything about her "tour of the ABC soaps" was crap and she stunk up OLTL for too many years.

Edited September 7, 201312 yr by Vee

I think the one thing these shows' return proved is that while they are tonally different - and even moreso from GH, which I regularly watched along with them in a block a la the old ABC schedule these past several months - they also go together. AMC was always supposed to be different from OLTL, and OLTL different from AMC. AMC was home and hearth, OLTL was Heaven and Hell. Watching them together again this year, where there's been a real commitment to putting out two unique shows as opposed to the Fronsian mass-produced uniformity of the last decade, has been really fun, watching those different tones and flavors next to each other for the first time in a long time. So I do hope that continues. (And yes, Carlivati's GH was a part of that too - the frothy, often frankly ridiculous of late adventure soap at the other end of the line-up.)

She was wrong. Rae was terrible. Everything about her "tour of the ABC soaps" was crap and she stunk up OLTL for too many years.

o agree with all you said here & I never liked ABC D-Chandlering Skye. Skye would be greeat back on AMC. She was horiibbly used on OLTL. Im just glad RC never became a Cassie recast as was planned

Edited September 7, 201312 yr by John

You mean NEVER being a Cassie recast

You mean NEVER being a Cassie recast

Fixed it

Edited September 7, 201312 yr by John

Agree that both shows are very different and really always have been and that both have much to be proud of in these short first seasons. I've never been into AMC v OLTL or GH v OLTL or any soap wars and one of my favorite things about this board is that it really doesn't happen here.

The war Ann was referring to existed long before you started posting here. If you go to the archives and look at the old ratings threads starting from about a year before cancellation you'll see what she was referring to. It was mainly the result of the knowledge that the hammer was about to come down on one soap.The irony is nobody expected that ABC would cancel both.

All I'll say about this is in spite of my quibbles with OLTL 2.0, I'm definitely displeased with this turn of events - especially since it was leagues above the majority of the tired soaps that are airing on TV (though I will give DAYS a 1/4 gold star for making me interested enough to peep in once every 3 weeks).

Needless to say, it chaps my ass to see raggedy-ass ABC Daytime and that hack Cartini victorious while the superior soap bites the dust - especially since that waste of airtime should've been the one to bite the dust in the first place.

Edit: I meant 'that hack Carlivati'

Regardless of what happens with OLTL, I hope that both Kelly Missal and Jerry Ver Dorn will both submit themselves for Emmy pre-nominations (or whatever the heck they call it). Both actors put in some great scene work-- as good as practically any of the daytime shows I've seen this past year.

Edited September 7, 201312 yr by DramatistDreamer

AMC was home and hearth, OLTL was Heaven and Hell. Watching them together again this year, where there's been a real commitment to putting out two unique shows as opposed to the Fronsian mass-produced uniformity of the last decade, has been really fun, watching those different tones and flavors next to each other for the first time in a long time.

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I've detailed my disappointments with OLTL already here, but ITA PP delivered unique visions for each soap

Regardless of what happens with OLTL, I hope that both Kelly Missal and Jerry Ver Dorn will both submit themselves for Emmy pre-nominations (or whatever the heck they call it). Both actors put in some great scene work-- as good as practically any of the daytime shows I've seen this past year.

+1

I'm bracing myself for the return of Fusion. Wouldn't want the Shelter set to go to waste.

AMC already used the shelter set as the strip club Cass was forced to work at

Edited September 8, 201312 yr by John