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Is Josh Griffith out at Y&R??

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That's how this'll end. Because getting rid of JFP or depowering her these days is not as easy as it once was, not that it was ever that easy. I think Sony/CBS brought her in with a clear purpose, to "revolutionize" Y&R once and for all a la the "more modern" Frons-era ABC soaps and finish the transformation the last two regimes began, and I've yet to see any indication that they are less than committed to that track. She's like a wood tick now, she burrows in and never leaves unless the whole creative infrastructure is lanced and burnt out. And reuniting the Phelps/Guza "team" which enjoyed such unjust renown for almost a decade would seem ideal to Sony or CBS.

So sad, but likely so true.

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Is it that HARD to give someone like NATALIE MINARDI SLATER a shot head-writing or co-head writing???
She is still young and rather cheap (as this is surely one top credential for SONY...) but was classically trained at Y&R and at least knows how to plot stories!!! Yet, they demoted her and she's probably gone with the new hack regime as they keep hiring sh*tty fellows.

This show is really hitting it hard - this is gonna get really bad...

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This show is really hitting it hard - this is gonna get really bad...

Exactly. The expression 'it can not get much worse' does not apply to Y&R. It ALWAYS does.
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This thread makes me want to cry. Why are they destroying my once-favourite soap like this? Why are they trying to turn it into a sub-par product from another network?

Y&R and Bill Bell mentored so many people through the ranks. How hard is it to get these people back? Producers with actual talent? Writers who know the Y&R history and ethos inside out? I don't think JG was as horrendous as some say he was, but his sense of Y&R history did not stray far beyond the LML years.

Passanante or Guza... Jesus. I can't even process what these two would do at the helm.

When JFP was initially hired, a lot of people on SON (with truly the best of intentions) told me this was the best thing to happen to Y&R. I fear now, as I feared then, that it may actually be one of the worst.


Is it that HARD to give someone like NATALIE MINARDI SLATER a shot head-writing or co-head writing???
She is still young and rather cheap (as this is surely one top credential for SONY...) but was classically trained at Y&R and at least knows how to plot stories!!! Yet, they demoted her and she's probably gone with the new hack regime as they keep hiring sh*tty fellows.

This show is really hitting it hard - this is gonna get really bad...

I love this idea.

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Oh please. Her history speaks for itself. The problem with many of these writers isn't t hat they're bad (although I believe Josh Griffith is a TERRIBLE HW in general), but that these people are poorly qualified to write Y&R. It's success stems from it's signature style and the people they employ don't care about that and choose to do their own thing. Anybody who is brought in is going to fail because chances are they don't know the show, have no desire to learn the show and will once again try to spin it into what they want it to be. I don't know why anybody fell for JFP's mess about fine-tuning the show. She was bound to gut it and that is what is happening.

You are on point on your commenting here on this thread.

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http://daytimeconfidential.zap2it.com/2013/08/15/eric-braeden-on-the-young-and-the-restless-head-writer-shake-up-im-very-pissed-off

Looks like braden not happy!

just wait and see what SONY does once the show falls out of its #1 spot!!

I firmly believe that JFP's luck of bringing up the ratings using the "Car Wreck on the side of the Road" concept is begining to tarnish. If this show does end it may end JFP's career!

Is Jill Farren Phelps a bully? Does she think she is God's gift to the Daytime drama industry? Is she so protective of her own career at the expense of shows/cast?

Eric Braeden and I suspect some of the other longtime cast are not happy too.

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So JFP strikes again. I wonder what the creative differences were. Not that it matters they are both horrible. JFP probably wants her pet sucky Burton to get more airtime and is upset that the African American characters are getting so much airtime.

Eh, Y&R's ratings will continue to thread water and sink with JFP in charge, but as long as she reduces the budget Sony will be happy.

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Always hated JFP with a passion ! If Guza comes on board, for the 1st time in 25 years, I will no longer watch Y&R.

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I still suspect Altman and co. (Passanante, whoever) are just placeholders for Bob Guza and possibly Meg Bennett.

That's how this'll end. Because getting rid of JFP or depowering her these days is not as easy as it once was, not that it was ever that easy. I think Sony/CBS brought her in with a clear purpose, to "revolutionize" Y&R once and for all a la the "more modern" Frons-era ABC soaps and finish the transformation the last two regimes began, and I've yet to see any indication that they are less than committed to that track. She's like a wood tick now, she burrows in and never leaves unless the whole creative infrastructure is lanced and burnt out. And reuniting the Phelps/Guza "team" which enjoyed such unjust renown for almost a decade would seem ideal to Sony or CBS.

I don't think Bob Guza has the first clue how to write any kind of soap anymore other than his Wal-Mart special version of a crime soap. There's a reason Bob never made it in primetime or cable dramas like some people still seem to think he should do - it's because he's not ready for that kind of primetime. He doesn't have it.

ROTFL!!!!!! thanks for todays laugh. The JFP wood tick quote was icing on the cake.

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Always hated JFP with a passion ! If Guza comes on board, for the 1st time in 25 years, I will no longer watch Y&R.

Get ready to turn your tv off...the news will be coming very soon...they might as well just cancel Y&R. Y&R will be the new GeneralMobsptial..

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Griffith's contract was up and he was probably forced out. That doesn't mean that JFP will stay long term. Steve Kent is aware that she's a polarizing figure with a mixed track record. Under her brief one year tenure, Griffith left and Stafford quit. It's been a very turbulent year. They may give Jill another six months to turn it around with her headwriter of choice but it's a valuable franchise and Sony got rid of Latham fairly quickly. MAB stayed but she had come in as ficore and may have had some guarantees in her contract, plus she's in the Bell family, so who knows contractually what Sony, CBS and Bell productions have in the contracts regarding who controls what. At least there's movement. Everyone realized that Griffith wasn't working out. That's step one. He hasn't destroyed the show, it's just comatose.

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