The union is really going to serve its members well when PP decides it is better to close up shop. That'll teach them.

Right. It should just let them be lowballed.

And when production decides to pay the, even less, hey, why not?

Hell, $1 an hour is better than none.

As for the notion of moving, Prospect Park shouldn't seriously consider that, since most states that are used for filming are unionized. Most of the right to work states are below the Mason-Dixon line or in the Plains or Mountains.

Edited June 6, 201312 yr by ReddFoxx

I grew up in the Inland Empire

I swear they're doing all this just so I will be caught up in episodes. It's very kind of them.

That movie was so effing strange.

I swear they're doing all this just so I will be caught up in episodes. It's very kind of them.

That's how I try to look at it.

I hear North Dakota is lovely in the fall.

I swear they're doing all this just so I will be caught up in episodes. It's very kind of them.

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http://michaelfairmansoaps.com/news/amidst-labor-dispute-amc-oltl-writers-have-been-told-to-keep-writing/2013/06/05

Oh, I don't think we should either. But I do think this is a dispute that can and should be quickly resolved, as opposed to letting it dismantle the production, and I personally feel a lot of the onus for that is on Prospect Park.

Vee you've talked me off the ledge. Thank you for all your rationalness in this thread. With AMC, I can totally think logically and have a business head but when it comes to OLTL, I revert to the first grader who was so excited to get strep throat every winter so that I could get a full week of Todd Manning and Dorian.

I don't think they want to leave Stamford. I think they're puffing that at the union. I think this actually could be resolved if (and huge IF) PP takes the initiative, stops leaking things/talking and enters productive talks with the union. I don't think the union is looking to shut down production and lost the jobs permanently (but the week/ten day shut down is probably fine with them) and I don't think PP wants to throw in the towel yet so I'm moderately hopeful.

I look forward to how Cady mcClain attempts to shepherd us through this one.

This is all my fault. I was the one who posted last week that we got through a week without any PP craziness. Well I will never try to be Prospect Park Pollyanna again.

Edited June 6, 201312 yr by greens_dupres

I'll believe it when it's settled and not before. You can't take your eyes off these people for a minute. I long for the dream of a day where we can look back on all this in a year or two and laugh at the ridiculous mess. I have absolutely no expectation that that will happen, but it's a nice dream.

I am not saying it's a done deal and everything's going to be fine, because I don't have any assurance of that. I think it can be fine, but I suspect the question is if PP is willing to step up to their part of the problem. Which is no guarantee of anything. I hope so, though. And whatever happens, I've gotten a lot more than I expected.

Edited June 6, 201312 yr by Vee

more news

http://michaelfairmansoaps.com/news/amidst-labor-dispute-amc-oltl-writers-have-been-told-to-keep-writing/2013/06/05

I really hate clicking on his page. MF is such a gross little man, and to have all those pictures of himself on the opening page? Ugh!

Oh, Chit, this is the soap press, all these people have all been gross little men and women for going on 20 years.

*eye roll* Please PP get this together by August so things can roll smoothly from here on

Right. It should just let them be lowballed.

And when production decides to pay the, even less, hey, why not?

Hell, $1 an hour is better than none.

Except the wages all those people are earning a lot higher than $1 an hour. They are undertaking a new endeavor where there is no proven path to turning a profit. The unions can work against its own member and try to bleed the production dry (as all the entertainment unions do) or they can give these people a chance to perhaps to find the way to quality professional content online when your name is not netflix.

I don't know the current minimum wages for grips and lighting people in this union, but I can tell you about the bullshit Broadway union where the show is forced to hire a lighting guy, and the theater is forced to hire a lighting guy and all the theater's lighting guy has to do is come in and turn on the lights so the show's lighting guy can take over. For that he is paid a full union salary and as the guy I knew who had that job, he would then leave the theater and go work a second job at another show. But he was paid for a full shift as per union requirements.

We can cling to utopian ideals where the unions are fighting for the little guy against the evil magnates of 1910 but that isn't the situation here.