Members John Posted June 6, 2013 Members Share Posted June 6, 2013 @AllMyChildren & @OneLifeTolIve fans, The IATSE (International Alliance of Theatrical Stage Employees) union has not gone on strike. This is PP & @TOLN who have decided to start their hiatuses a week early to settle this dispute between them & IATSE.Per @MiichaeFairman we know the writers have been told by PP to continue writing long-term stories for both soaps. We also know from PP that episodes of both shows will air thru September. This probably means the editors which are part of IATSE are still gonna work to finish editing the episodes that both soaps have filmed so far.The plan is still to restart production August 12th 2013. I feel deep down this will happen & this dispute will be settled shortly. So as fans lets just continue to support, the shows, actors & crew. Spread the word & continue to watch. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members JackPeyton Posted June 6, 2013 Author Members Share Posted June 6, 2013 So of dont know the minimums or really what's going on here, can only compare it to a broadway situation - that this is not - and then say that the union isn't fighting for its members. Ok. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members John Posted June 6, 2013 Members Share Posted June 6, 2013 @AllMyChildren & @OneLifeTolIve fans, The IATSE (International Alliance of Theatrical Stage Employees) union has not gone on strike. This is PP & @TOLN who have decided to start their hiatuses a week early to settle this dispute between them & IATSE.Per @MiichaeFairman we know the writers have been told by PP to continue writing long-term stories for both soaps. We also know from PP that episodes of both shows will air thru September. This probably means the editors which are part of IATSE are still gonna work to finish editing the episodes that both soaps have filmed so far.The plan is still to restart production August 12th 2013. I feel deep down this will happen & this dispute will be settled shortly. So as fans lets just continue to support, the shows, actors & crew. Spread the word & continue to watch. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members quartermainefan Posted June 6, 2013 Members Share Posted June 6, 2013 I don't see you educating me by posting the sub poverty salary levels that directors of photography and grips make, so I have to assume my logic is sound and my point has merit to it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Vee Posted June 6, 2013 Members Share Posted June 6, 2013 I think both sides of the argument likely have merit. I just don't see a point in fighting about it or vilifying anyone when the shows are what matter. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members JackPeyton Posted June 6, 2013 Author Members Share Posted June 6, 2013 Did I say they were below poverty? I don't know their life. I'm not claiming to. I am saying that a union is needed to keep a fair wage for them. PP seems to have violated their agreement and I turn is low along the crew on their agreed salary, and that's wrong. The union thankfully is stepping in. Without the union they would have to take whatever PP threw at them while talent gets paid a shitload because of their union. That's not right. And the $1 an hour was extreme, it wasnt supposed to be a realistic per hour rate. But please, if oh Ned to feel your baseless point actually holds merit, do. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Jonathan Posted June 6, 2013 Members Share Posted June 6, 2013 I'm waiting to see how Cady spins this one. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Vee Posted June 6, 2013 Members Share Posted June 6, 2013 Oh, leave poor Cady alone. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members quartermainefan Posted June 6, 2013 Members Share Posted June 6, 2013 Well thank you for agreeing with my appraisal of the entertainment unions in general. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members JackPeyton Posted June 6, 2013 Author Members Share Posted June 6, 2013 You think talent and crew or on the same pay scale? Wow. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members greens_dupres Posted June 6, 2013 Members Share Posted June 6, 2013 She may be muzzled on this one for awhile. That said- I feel bad for the actors both the vets who have been on a long crazyass ride with the ABC/PP and the kids who have seemed so over the moon excited about this project and happy to be there. I know actors don't expect tons of stability but still. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members ellabelle Posted June 6, 2013 Members Share Posted June 6, 2013 Cady is an attention whore. She will spin this however she thinks she'll get the most attention. As for the unions, I am on there side based on what I've read thus far. They agreed to take less than union rate for AMC/OLTL based on the budget for the shows. Then the number of shows was cut, and the shows were apparently over budget per episode, but the crews were still being paid at the lower rates, in violation of the contract. Unless there's evidence to indicate otherwise, it appears that PP is in the wrong here, and they need to get their act together. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members John Posted June 6, 2013 Members Share Posted June 6, 2013 PP was budgeting these shows at 80,000 an episode. The Bargaining agreement with Itase said they cant spend more than 125,000 per episode. PP states that they havent spent more than 100,000 an episode. The union has PP's books . If PP did go over on some episodes, they will pay a penality. If not, they wont. Either way, I see this settled and the shows back to work as planned on August 12th Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Vee Posted June 6, 2013 Members Share Posted June 6, 2013 Rude. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members murphy21 Posted June 6, 2013 Members Share Posted June 6, 2013 Not that i think this won't be resolved/that PP would move production to another state, but sInce the sets have already been built for the most part, doesn't PP have the hammer in this negotiation? They have actors, scripts, sets and more than two months to find another production space. Couldn't they just tell the union negotiators that they can either settle this dispute on their terms or they will move production somewhere else? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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