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Prospect Park Sues ABC Over ‘One Life To Live’ & ‘All My Children’ Licensing Agreement

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OK I guess i misunderstood it. I thought they meant the original license last year said they would have story consultation for these characters--and then ABC killed off two of them without asking PP (in the first week...)

They do mean the original liscening agreement. There was not a new one. Just a addenium was added for borrowing the seven OLTL characters. The lisence is good for 10 years.

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Kristen, Michael and Roger are under contract with ABC they can put them in any role they want, how is that a breach, as long as they're not playing their OLTL characters I don't see how PP has a leg to stand on with that

Depends on if they had to name Todd, Starr and John in these particular contracts because they were PP property licensed to them. It's not usually done, but with a case like this - has there been one?

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I can absolutely believe they were told Todd, John, etc. would have "limited roles".

Then we cut to this February, and John is applying to be Rafe's guardian and Starr owns the damn boat. That to me seemed like invoking squatter's rights. They had a whisper campaign going about the actors to try and make their case to the soap press, and they continued to blatantly try to seal the characters into GH. That to me was an obvious attempt to win the day by bending the rules as far as possible. That was tacky. But again, I'm not sure if it was legally actionable.

The roles were NEVER limited and PP knew this. My guess is that PP needed the 3 to be walking billboards for OL while on GH. Cut the losses and GH finally did!

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OK that is bad formon their part not to allow PP story approval rights (although a part of me thinks at the time with no writers hired for the shows or knowledge they would go forward, they prob woulda approved anything). But are they implying they killed John and made him Caleb? I am soooo confused.

RC now can write a Pickle Lila court case story and base it on this. sigh.

I thought they were talking about Tomas and Alcarzar

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What outlets and why didn't PP step in prior to losing the performers, and again, why negotiate with ABC/GH after this "breach". Cope was "killed" off 14 months ago!

The legal departments for both networks for one. PP and ABC had been negotiating and talking till ABC realised they were really going to get the shows off the ground and they world lose their characters. That's when ABC/GH broke off contact and negotiations.

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JMO, but I think both sides should try mediation first.

Everything I have ever heard - which could all be scurrilous bullshit, admittedly - suggests PP wanted to negotiate, and GH wanted to run for the hills and create new characters immediately to lock them in. They didn't want to negotiate at all.

The roles were NEVER limited and PP knew this.

How do you know that?

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PP is looking worse here.

To you because you are for some reason are pro-ABC.This is a legal dispute which has nothing do with who is "looking worse." It is about property, money and profit. Unless there is some secret legal contract out there, PP clearly has solid legal ground, but there is no way that it has the finances to push the lawsuit. Ultimately, PP and ABC will settle.

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I thought they were talking about Tomas and Alcarzar

They are talking Tomas & Alcazar.

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Does PP even have a chance of winning against ABC/Disney, really. I mean Disney probably has a legal team on retainer........

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I also think a lot of this is to keep them in the news - soap opera behind the soap operas.

If money they get from the lawsuits helps keep PP's AMC and OLTL online longer, I'm all for it.

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They do mean the original liscening agreement. There was not a new one. Just a addeniy=um was added for borrowing the seven OLTL characters. The lisence is good for 10 years.

And yet they said nothing? PP licensed the characters to GH for a year, and if at any point, they didn't like what was happening, they could very easily reference this agreement. My guess is that PP didn't think OL was getting off the ground and was going to offset the outgoing expense (Licensing Fee) with the incoming income from the 3 characters.

That said, they were so unhappy that GH breached this agreement that they went into negotiations with ABC/GH a year later?

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Everything I have ever heard - which could all be scurrilous bullshit, admittedly - suggests PP wanted to negotiate, and GH wanted to run for the hills and create new characters immediately to lock them in. They didn't want to negotiate at all.

How do you know that?

I actually watched and limited is not what anyone should use to describe the characters.

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Oh, I see. But again, GH began using these characters heavily and killed Cope 14 months ago and PP said nothing in all that time??? Suspect to you?

Absolutely. It seems obvious as others have said, that PP were willing to go with all of this--they really prob don't care about Cole and Hope at all--and play nice to keep ABC in their good graces and willing to share or part with the characters. Now that ABC isn't they're going over EVERYTHING ABC did that was questionable as revenge or sour grapes, when really they were willing to just ignore it.

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