Members All My Shadows Posted April 8, 2013 Members Share Posted April 8, 2013 Honestly, this is hilarious, considering there is a common theme throughout so many of your posts of "I don't see the problem, so there isn't a problem." Oh look, there's an example lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Wales2004 Posted April 8, 2013 Members Share Posted April 8, 2013 Wow! So you study my posts and have detected a theme. I suppose that you now know all about me. It's actually funny that you care enough to want to suggest or whatever it is that you're doing that I shouldn't have an opinion. I don't know you any more than you know me....it would be a mistake for you to assume that these posts reveal any more than whatever pattern you think you've detected..... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members All My Shadows Posted April 8, 2013 Members Share Posted April 8, 2013 LOL, using exaggeration and hyperbole to deflect the point. I never claimed to "know all about you," nor do I "study" your posts, but I'm not oblivious to what I read. We've engaged in enough of these type of conversations on this board in the last year for me to be able to get a grasp on your posting style, or at least, what I perceive to be your posting style. And, of course, you went right ahead and proved my point in your post. And also, why is that people will write paragraph after paragraph on an Internet message board, then bust out with the "you don't know me!" nonsense. No, I don't know a great deal about you, but when you share so many of your thoughts, guess what! You reveal a LOT about who you are, and YES, that means I "know" you to a certain extant. I'm not sorry that you're upset about how I perceive you through your very own words. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members VirginiaHamilton Posted April 8, 2013 Members Share Posted April 8, 2013 At least Luther didn't take his issues out on women. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members VirginiaHamilton Posted April 8, 2013 Members Share Posted April 8, 2013 In this case, no - especially since TP hasn't provided any legroom for any other kind of interpretation or conclusion about his crap. Furthermore, I'm amazed at how far some will go to prove that issues pertaining to Black people are a figment of one's imagination, but I guess that's post-racialism for you... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Khan Posted April 8, 2013 Members Share Posted April 8, 2013 Luther was gay (ask anyone), but Luther also was someone who loved and respected women. That was clear every time he sang a love song or gave an interview. Tyler might love women, too, but he can't get past the fact that he was molested several times as a child or that his father abused him right under his beloved mother's nose. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members VirginiaHamilton Posted April 8, 2013 Members Share Posted April 8, 2013 Precisely why I said that Luther hadn't taken his issues with his sexuality (or rather, not being able to be out in the public eye) out on women (his target audience). Compare that with TP, who rehashes his own issues (without any breakthrough at the end of the tunnel) at the expense of the women (his target audience) that he claims to love writing for. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Khan Posted April 8, 2013 Members Share Posted April 8, 2013 I agreed with what you posted, VH. Sorry if that didn't come across. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Khan Posted April 8, 2013 Members Share Posted April 8, 2013 Something else I can't get past: the fact that most of TP's plays and films end with the female protagonist finding whatever she lacks in life through The Love of a Good Man. "God put men and women on this earth to complete each other, don'cha know?" Really, TP? Really? But I do give TP props for pairing up Taraji P. Henson's character in "I Can Do Bad All Myself" with Adam Rodriguez's. Somebody must've told Tyler that AR was Black just to see what might've happened. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members VirginiaHamilton Posted April 8, 2013 Members Share Posted April 8, 2013 Sorry for being overzealous in my response, Khan. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members ChitHappens Posted April 8, 2013 Members Share Posted April 8, 2013 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Wales2004 Posted April 8, 2013 Members Share Posted April 8, 2013 This is not meant for you but whenever I say people see what they see or what they want to see, that includes me. I think we all have our ways of perceiving things that may or may not be similar to the next person. As far as you go, this may be a total waste of time but I don't think i deflected anything. I can't be responsible for how you interpret anything I write and frankly, it's none of my business what you think or whether you think you know me. But I will share with you that I'm not upset about anything you wrote. Now I can't help if you perceive differently and it's not my place to waste time trying to convince you otherwise so if it works for you to think that I'm some sensitive person.....then have at it. If I were on the internet trying to bully people behind a keyboard, then your statement might ring true to me but I'm not. I'm not the one who went out of my way to try to be personal....you did. There's no reason for me to be rude nor personalize anything. That's not my intention in expressing an opinion. I happen to learn a lot from people's opinions. It would be kind of monotonoius if everybody shared the same opinion aobut everything or at least never brought a new perspective into certain discussions, imo. I don't have any desire to "argue" with you period. So since you've made it clear that you have an issue with me and my posts, then I'll consider myself informed. Thanks!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Wales2004 Posted April 8, 2013 Members Share Posted April 8, 2013 Post-racialism is a contradictory term to me because I don't really get how a society that is extremely cognizant of race becomes post-racial. I just see it as another one of those nonsensical political terms that some media people threw out for a grand talking point. I don't think anyone should look at someone else's opinions as a figment of that person's imaginations. I certainly don't see how not sharing another person's opinions is the equivalent of negating or dismissing them. Even when I don't agree with certain opinions, I can generally see how people arrive at them....especially when their examples clearly illustrate how they arrived at them. It's not always a case of who is right and who is wrong. In fact, ii is most often not a case of who is right or wrong. It's most often a case of everybody being right since everyone is representing their own truth. Our society just seems to encourage people to believe that opinions are fact and that anyone who says anything to the contrary is wrong, stupid, ignorant, etc. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Khan Posted April 9, 2013 Members Share Posted April 9, 2013 I wonder if anyone has examined how TP treats Caucasian characters in his works (probably not). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members EricMontreal22 Posted April 9, 2013 Author Members Share Posted April 9, 2013 I can't remember the details, but wasn't most of Tyler's sexual abuse from a woman? (A neighbour I think?) That's neither here nor there. I admit, I did appreciate that he made a point of discussing male sexual abuse on Oprah, one of the few thingsI have appreciated that he's done (although for the entire episode my--perhaps unfair view was he tried to make it clear this had nothing to do with his sexuality. A view which in a way I think is good to make--it doesn't--but it just seemed almost like he focused onti too much.) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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