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Y&R February 2013 Discussion

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Everything with that woman is either mediocre or downright bad. Her hair looks horrific, oh it used to be worse. Her acting is horrible and bland, oh it is actually better than it used to be. Seriously, it is does not seem like asking much that she look in the damn mirror before she goes on set and brush her damn hair! It is the least that a talentless actress like her can do.

After my outburst above, clearly that is not true. But I am trying to stay out of her personal life because I am in pure hate mode where her portrayal of Victoria is concerned. If I go there now, I will cross all sorts of lines.

PREACH. She is the definition of "mediocre" as Victoria. I saw her "confronting" Adam at the GCAC the other day and it was like watching somebody on Sominex. She is awful, and when she does amp up the energy it is only to play a whiney, remorseless bitch. Something is deeply wrong when I, who will watch Y&R rain or shine, willingly FF all her scenes.

The hair people take care of AH locks. They are trying to give her some sort of trendy/wannabe hipster-lite style with her hair and retro house. Personally, I think she looks fine for that type of urban rich girl. MAB was all about making Y&R 'hip' with Daniel's art shows, Billy living in a trailer drinking PBR and Jimmy's bar. These efforts at 'style' were about all MAB was good for considering she sourced her work out to PR, HS and who ever else was around.

I know you all love Heather Thom but AH is fine in the role. She also is far more attractive--face and body.

Have you checked out B&B lately? HT's hair is glossy and gorgeous, her cheeks pink, her skin glowy with healthy and her eyes full of spark and character. Oh, and her body is banging. Absolutely banging. While Amelia has a very pretty face and profile, it often looks drawn and tired and while I am guessing she has a model's figure, I wouldn't know as they are always clothing her in shlumpy, dark outfits. With her rock-bottom energy levels when she delivers dialogue, it is literally like a dark cloud walking into a scene. IRL, it really would not matter at all. From many accounts, AH is well liked on the Y&R set and MTS really loves her. Is she better than she was on MAB's Y&R? Without a doubt. But for such a pivotal legacy character, it is still not enough.

If Y&R were to continue long after Erc Baeden and MTS retire, I honestly do not think Victoria in her current incarnation has "it" to entice me, to keep invested in her story as "Her Father's Daughter."

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PREACH. She is the definition of "mediocre" as Victoria. I saw her "confronting" Adam at the GCAC the other day and it was like watching somebody on Sominex. She is awful, and when she does amp up the energy it is only to play a whiney, remorseless bitch. Something is deeply wrong when I, who will watch Y&R rain or shine, willingly FF all her scenes.

You know things have hit rock bottom when she makes MM look half-way decent. The worse part for me, is that her blandness and mediocrity has rubbed off on Billy Miller. He is already prone to laziness and acting ticks. He needs a much stronger acting partner to keep his attention and push him to give strong performances. I am hoping that renewal of vows is the death keel for Billy and Victoria.

Have you checked out B&B lately? HT's hair is glossy and gorgeous, her cheeks pink, her skin glowy with healthy and her eyes full of spark and character. Oh, and her body is banging. Absolutely banging. While Amelia has a very pretty face and profile, it often looks drawn and tired and while I am guessing she has a model's figure, I wouldn't know as they are always clothing her in shlumpy, dark outfits. With her rock-bottom energy levels when she delivers dialogue, it is literally like a dark cloud walking into a scene. IRL, it really would not matter at all. From many accounts, AH is well liked on the Y&R set and MTS really loves her. Is she better than she was on MAB's Y&R? Without a doubt. But for such a pivotal legacy character, it is still not enough.

The whole who is prettier is such a straw man argument, but you nailed it, Cat. Heather is simply stunning. Motherhood totally agrees with her. I'll take the beautiful well groomed and coiffed talented Heather Tom over AH who walks around like her finger is stuck in an electrical socket. Last time I checked a hair brush is a pretty straight forward grooming tool. Heather and every soap actress other AH clearly know how to use it.

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You know things have hit rock bottom when she makes MM look half-way decent. The worse part for me, is that her blandness and mediocrity has rubbed off on Billy Miller. He is already prone to laziness and acting ticks. He needs a much stronger acting partner to keep his attention and push him to give strong performances. I am hoping that renewal of vows is the death keel for Billy and Victoria.

The whole who is prettier is such a straw man argument, but you nailed it, Cat. Heather is simply stunning. Motherhood totally agrees with her. I'll take the beautiful well groomed and coiffed talented Heather Tom over AH who walks around like her finger is stuck in an electrical socket. Last time I checked a hair brush is a pretty straight forward grooming tool. Heather and every soap actress other AH clearly know how to use it.

OMG! Why does that line have me gut laughing. When I watched YR last year, I could not stand to see AH coming because I knew her hair would not be combed/brushed. She has a dead screen presence and then to look like a street urchin?

I'm not a HT fan at all and have always felt she was overrated. A grown up can be SORASed, so I think Robin Christopher should just go and play the role of Victoria Newman! That is the only solution to me. There is no way a corpse s/b representing this generation of the Newmans.

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Miller was in a number of flop stories before Victoria/AH. I think he's good at making faces, but when it comes to scene partners or connections, I have rarely seen any. I think the Bacteria pairing probably helped him, at least for a while, because he had more direct stories with the Newmans. Once the stories became about baby baby baby baby baby there was zero purpose, and the characters becme even more pointless.

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I'm not a HT fan at all and have always felt she was overrated. A grown up can be SORASed, so I think Robin Christopher should just go and play the role of Victoria Newman! That is the only solution to me. There is no way a corpse s/b representing this generation of the Newmans.

I have gone back and forth about Heather Tom over the years, but now I think that she is one of the stronger soap actresses in her age range. MCE would have been a good Victoria. Alternatively, I would like Gina Tognoni have a shot at the role. I think Paige Turco would be a good Victoria too, but she is working a lot in prime time so she would be unavailable. Oh well, it is all fantasy.

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MCE actually auditioned for the role of Colleen prior to AMC.

Was that the time Lyndsy Fonseca got the role or the time Adrianne Leon got the role?

She's too young for Victoria. I think Jessica Collins should've been Victoria.

But at this point I'd be happy for Amelia to stay in the role, for familiarity if nothing else.

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AH looks too young for Victoria to me. Victoria should be like 45 right now but it feels like she's early 30s and Nick is the older brother isnetad of younger one.

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You know things have hit rock bottom when she makes MM look half-way decent. The worse part for me, is that her blandness and mediocrity has rubbed off on Billy Miller. He is already prone to laziness and acting ticks. He needs a much stronger acting partner to keep his attention and push him to give strong performances. I am hoping that renewal of vows is the death keel for Billy and Victoria.

The whole who is prettier is such a straw man argument, but you nailed it, Cat. Heather is simply stunning. Motherhood totally agrees with her. I'll take the beautiful well groomed and coiffed talented Heather Tom over AH who walks around like her finger is stuck in an electrical socket. Last time I checked a hair brush is a pretty straight forward grooming tool. Heather and every soap actress other AH clearly know how to use it.

HT looks like a frumpy middle aged soccer mom which is why Brooke will get Bill. AH looks realistic in terms of age for the role of Victoria. I don't see her as an overly strong actor but actually like the hair and look--geek chic and nothing like a soap diva. MAB remade Victoria into a trendy/hipster rich girl working the messy look and she has the run down retro house to match. Even her wedding and the Jamacia stuff sort of fits the shift in character. She is not the female Victor but the fusion of Victor and Nikki. The Victor space is all Adam now. MM is now holding his own against EB in the scenes they share and he now has a clear character motive in wanting Victor's love. JG has done a great job re-defining Adam and is doing a great job opening Cane up.

I'm growing bored with Hogan's sloppy prime time jumps. He played with this over at ATWT and JFP must see it as part of bringing Y&R into the modern era. I have no issue with prime time style production but Adam with Sharon and then one minute later with Chelsea while Kay is suddenly trapped in the snow storm and then, I gather, returned home by Adrianna, or so we are told the next day, makes Y&R a mess. I'm not one of those soap fans who needs to see everything but the editing is poor and makes the show feel rushed.

JFP, if she wants a prime time feel, should hire someone from a CW show like Ringer or even Criminal Minds to develop a new style with a heathy flow.

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AH looks too young for Victoria to me. Victoria should be like 45 right now but it feels like she's early 30s and Nick is the older brother isnetad of younger one.

No...Nikki should be 55, at the oldest given she joined the show around 1980 and her character was about 18 years old. Victoria should be in her early 30s if we are going to get exact.

Your age clock would make Nikki a mother at 10 years old.

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Vikki can not be early 30s since its been said Nick is 40 and he has a son in his early 20s. Vikki's the older sibling.

I don't think HT is stunning. She's plain to me but amuch better actress than AH.

Um didn't Ringer flop? Why the hell would they hire anyone from that one season show?

Also didn't Hogan finally leave?

Re: MCE as Colleen yeah I can't even picture her in that role.

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