Members Y&RWorldTurner Posted August 26, 2012 Author Members Share Posted August 26, 2012 I always heard it was planned to kill Phillip off, and not because Thom quit, but because it was story dictated. I believe Bell himself said it was story dictated, though he regretted ridding the show of the character. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members alphanguy74 Posted August 26, 2012 Members Share Posted August 26, 2012 No... he decided to kill the character off after Thom decided to quit, in order to propel the Jill Katherine feud for another 15-20 years, but he said he later regretted it. Just like he decided to write out the entire Brooks family after Jaime Lyn Bauer quit. And her reasons for leaving were opposite of most actors, she wanted to her work to be CUT BACK. And what's sad is that she said had she known that 5 other actors were going to lose their jobs because of what she did, she never would have left. She would have just sucked it up and soldiered on. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Khan Posted August 26, 2012 Members Share Posted August 26, 2012 IMO, Papa Bell cast actors according to criteria that had nothing to do with actual acting ability. To him, an actor's physicality and even voice made or broke him, casting-wise. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members alphanguy74 Posted August 26, 2012 Members Share Posted August 26, 2012 I agree with that to some degree. They had to have some talent. They may not be the best actor, but as long as they are ADEQUATE, if they brought something else unique to the table, he hired them. Some actors had shortcomings.. Jaime Lyn Bauer couldn 't cry on cue. Jess Walton would overplay her anger often. Wings Hauser was even LESS attractive than Ernest Borgnine. I think Thom brought that same quality that Ashley Bashioum brought.. and that is a screen presence that made the character enigmatic, and sensitive. It was something different than what you normally see on daytime. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Mr. Vixen Posted August 26, 2012 Members Share Posted August 26, 2012 That is some awful acting. Thom has always been bad. Just...horrible. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members DeeeDee Posted August 26, 2012 Members Share Posted August 26, 2012 Thom is not a good actor but he's perfect as Philip. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members alphanguy74 Posted August 26, 2012 Members Share Posted August 26, 2012 What seems awful about it to you? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Mr. Vixen Posted August 26, 2012 Members Share Posted August 26, 2012 I don't know how to describe it. First of all, I didn't see any tears. Second of all, he's talking like he's crying but again, no tears. And to me he just comes off like he's trying to play it like a typical, dramatic, soap opera scene but he's not that type of actor. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members frequentsoapfan Posted August 26, 2012 Members Share Posted August 26, 2012 I don't even care about tears that cry just came off as so fake. Like I didn't see the sadness in his eyes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members YRBB Posted August 26, 2012 Members Share Posted August 26, 2012 Oh! I thought you were sarcastic in that first post with the video! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members alphanguy74 Posted August 29, 2012 Members Share Posted August 29, 2012 No, I wasn;t being sarcastic... I think it was fine, not earth shattering, but perfectly good. I think alot of his problem is that he has to act opposite the heaviest hitters on the show all the time, and next to Cooper, Walton, and Cast... it's hard to compete with that. He's look better in comparison is he was acting opposite Miller and Goddard all the time. And frequentsoapfan.... the sadness in the eyes didn't come across because we got no damn closeups anymore. That is by far the biggest problem with Y&R today. The loss of the extreme closeup causes all subtlety and subtext to be completely LOST on the viewer. In order for emotion to come across to the viewer, you have to do what Walton does, and slap the viewer across the face with it like a wet fish. A more understated actor doesn't come across on this show anymore, and now that Thom knows this, he was trying to slap us across the face with it.... but it's not natural for him, and it doesn't work as well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members frequentsoapfan Posted August 29, 2012 Members Share Posted August 29, 2012 Or Thom is just bad and did bad in that scene. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Antoyne Posted August 29, 2012 Members Share Posted August 29, 2012 This. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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