Kate making an alliance with Sami against Madison is just not working for me at all, blech.

Ugh to Chad and Melanie.

I see a Breaking News: Chad Out! within the next year.

Probably the next three months. She truly is a blackhole.

Kate and Sami are interesting...but overall today's kind of boring. I didn't realize how invested I had become in Will's breakdown.

Nice mention of Austin's boxing. I haven't seen much of Susan but the recast's voice bothered me.

I will say it was nice to see a glimpse of old Sami.

Edited December 7, 201114 yr by Antoyne

Kate's outfit today is the ish!

I wish they would keep Ross Matthews on in a recurring capacity as Kate's assistant

"Its almost like the Sami I loathe and hate is back" LOL

Madison was dumb to hire Sami to such an important position. She really has herself to blame

I see Susan is still stuck on stupid

Edited December 7, 201114 yr by Cheap21

Luke wasn't drunk, or even drinking, at Christmas 2007. Maybe you're thinking about Christmas 2008? In 2007 he had just regained his abiity to walk after being paralyzed, and it was the first Christmas he spent with Noah. In 2008 on the other hand he had been expelled from school after cheating in the election and that's when he was drinking. This was also when Brian, Lucinda's new husband, had kissed him.

I think she was referring to Luke being drunk with Kevin when Lucinda caught them at her house. Luke started drinking way before he met Noah. It seems similiar to Will.

Well, Jack still has and has always had his ornament all these years, whether he was divorced from Jenn or not.

And Maggie is a Horton for life! She didn't divorce Mickey, he died while they were still married. I think it made perfect sense that they gave new husband Victor an ornament and I liked that Julie even made a little comment on the unlikelihood that Victor ever would have an ornament on the Horton tree. And like JP said, Tom & Alice certainly would have given Daniel & Melanie ornaments this year so it makes perfect sense that Maggie would present them to them. I'm not a huge fan of Daniel being Maggie's son either (too contrived) but it was a sweet, heartfelt moment and exactly what Maggie would do, so I ended up actually enjoying it.

But it's what the Hortons would do! This is Christmas in Salem. At the Horton household. If Alice were alive and well and was taking out the ornaments with Hope to get ready to decorate the tree, does anyone honestly see it playing out like this?....

HOPE: Gran, what do you think about maybe giving Victor an ornament this year, since he's Maggie's new husband, and giving them to Daniel and Melanie as well, since she just found out Daniel was her son, making Melanie her granddaughter?

ALICE: To be honest with you Hope, I didn't even plan on putting up Maggie's ornament this year. My sweet Mickey has left us and Maggie has moved on with her life. Now I'm not saying I'm not happy for Maggie because I am. But she's not really a Horton at all dear. She's a Simmons! Therefore, while she and her new family are welcome to come to the house tonight as guests while we decorate our tree, they won't be placing any ornaments on it. Why it's the Horton Christmas tree, Hope! And those balls are special to the Hortons, but you have to be a Horton to get one. We can't be giving them out to Simmonses and Kiriakises and Jonases and Laytons! Why Hope, if we were going to give ornaments to our friends to hang, don't you think I would have given one to my neighbor Marlena by now? Or the Carvers? Or the Bradys? Of course not dear. Now, enough of this talking- we'd better get to work if we're even going to have the tree ready for the Hortons to hang our ornaments on.

Sorry, but as a viewer of this show for the past 29 years, I just don't think that would be the case. I get that the point is that the writers shouldn't have made Daniel Maggie's son in the first place, but the reality is that they did and it only makes sense that Daniel & Melanie would end up getting ornaments this year. It's how the Hortons operate.

ITA!!!

Maybe it's because I'm always reading such negative things about MarDar, but I must say that I'm thoroughly enjoying their take on DAYS. I'm more intrigued by this Alice storyline than I have been by anything on DAYS in YEARS! I honestly have no idea where it's going but I'm enjoying the hell out of the ride. CAN'T WAIT to see Susan today. I've seen fans complaining about ED not returning as Susan for the episode and that Brynn couldn't possibly take her place, but I LOVE that Brynn says in SOD that the show had her study ED's performances as Susan on YouTube and do her best to imitate it. And that was just for the audition, so clearly Thayer more than likely gave the closest imitation of Eileen's Susan and got the part. Sounds like it's gonna be a ton of fun to watch!

I'm also LOVING this stuff with Will and I completely buy Will finally flipping his lid on his mom, after years of bad parenting and hypocrisy. The struggle he's having with his sexuality combined with his breakup with Gaby (blowing his cover) combined with Sami's transgression and then he has to stand there and listen to her lay into Marlena about how she & John have ruined her life......it's no wonder he's hitting his breaking point. I completely bought and ate up Drunk Will calling out Sami and going over the edge. He obviously has great affection for Marlena, since they mentioned when she & John first came back that Will emailed them every day. I'm looking forward to watching the Will/Marlena connection continue and watching the rest of this story play out. I think Chandler Massey is doing an exceptional job as Will and think the acting in this tale has been surprisingly first rate so far. I disagree with those that are saying this story seems more plot-driven than character driven. I feel like eveyone involved is acting completely in character, including Will. It's been a reallllly long while since I've felt emotionally connected to a DAYS story like this but I'm really feeling this one.

I'm starting to enjoy the mayor storyline, especially for some of the character interactions we're getting from it. Nicole/Jennifer? Nicole/Marlena? The scenes with Marlena were especially amazing! When they kicked it off the first week, it seemed sort of tacked on to the rest of the show (kinda like the Madison story that I'm about it talk about) but now, it's turning into a story I look forward to seeing when it's on. In fact, the mayor aspect is far more entertaining and interesting to me than the John in Prison aspect of it

The Madison Mad World vs Kate Countess Wilhemina is probably the weak point for me, but it's probably just because it's moving kind of slow. Which isn't a bad thing as it is giving the audience (me!) time to get to know Madison. And thusfar, I like her and the slight quirks that Sarah Brown has already given her. Wow, this girl is everything to DAYS this year that Tamara Braun wasn't (in this stint- I actually LOVED her as Ava the 1st time and wish they'd brought her back as her). Plus she has chemistry with Eric Martsolf, not to mention Koslow and Sweeney. I'm loving watching Madison lay into Sami about her lack of professionalism in the office. I'm quite looking forward to learning more about her and I'm liking Sarah Brown very much in the part. I'd only seen her on ATWT and B&B and didn't care for her too much on either show but I'm really liking her on DAYS.

All in all, as far as I'm concerned, I'm completely on board with this reboot and I think DAYS has more potential right now than it has in years! With the ratings starting to slowly inch up, I'm hoping this regime is able to keep the quality up and keep DAYS on the air well past its 50th Birthday!!!

I so agree with everything you said. And you said it so well. I thought MarDar was very slow at first. But it has really picked up speed. It at least is worlds better than Dena the Hack. The internet can be so negative, that no matter what the writers do, the fans are screaming with negativity. You could have Douglas Marland, James Reilly, and Pat Falken Smith come back from the dead to all cowrite the show, and still there would be a lot of complaining. I complain a lot and all is not perfect, but DAYS is really trying and certainly has improved by leaps and bounds. We should at least give them credit for that and not pick every storyline to death.

am i the only one upset about noel maxam getting the axe so early? im loving the show again!!!!

You're not the only one. I'm a bit worried about the production values once the stuff post-Maxam arrives. No more fireplace shots

I think even Alice would throw a paperweight (what did that end up being about?) at Daniel and Melanie. Or shove a donut down their throats.

I know I would.

This Susan today had me cracking up. Not even showing her face and having her in this weird cupboard while shaking her fist and clutching her dress sent me into hysterics.

Two things bugging me -- why is Quinn back? To saunter about this spa? He's not doing anything! Also, what is Kate up to? This Mad World/Countess Wilhemina fight is kinda lame, because it's not really about anything. There's no fashion show, no article to compete against. The Mayor race was formless a bit, but now it's taken a nice shape (is the election in March? I know some cities have moyral elections in March), so I need this cosmetics battle to do the same. At least give us something tangible these people are working for.

The Kate & Sami scenes were WONDERFUL.

They were, but I'm still trying to figure out Kate's angle. I know she obviously respects Sami as an adversary and meant what she was saying, but she also must have some sort of endgame. She doesn't wanna see Sami DESTROYED right now, but I doubt she wants to see her winning.

The Kate & Sami scenes were WONDERFUL.

this is how they should be written and its why I hated their initial interactions when the new writers took over. Sami and Kate dont hate each other and more and have a level of respect for each other that they developed for each other. Sami is the mother of Kate's grandchildren and thats something she's finally accepted. I loved her mentioning that today and its one of the reasons she doesnt want ot see her suffer. They dont have to be besties, but its great to see them civil nad for Kate to give her words of enouragement in her own way. I especially loved Kate commenting on how she ignited a fire in Sami that reminded her of the old Sami she once hated..lol. That was a good way to acknowledge their history while keeping with the moving forward with them

They were, but I'm still trying to figure out Kate's angle. I know she obviously respects Sami as an adversary and meant what she was saying, but she also must have some sort of endgame. She doesn't wanna see Sami DESTROYED right now, but I doubt she wants to see her winning.

She doesnt hate Sami and as she mentioned, Sami is the mother of her grandkids. Kate had her back last year and went against Stefano to help Sami out when she shot EJ. I dont think she has any ill will or plans to hurt Sami. This is all about Madison. Thats her focus. Lets face it, Sami is a mess and has no qualifications for the important job, Madison gave her. Kate saw that she's already proving to be a disaster and liability to Madison. The longer Madison keeps her, the worst shape Mad World will be in, which is good for Countess W

Edited December 8, 201114 yr by Cheap21

Kate can respect Sami all she wants, but I don't think she in any way likes her. It's just that Sami isn't in her crosshairs anymore. I don't for one second think she would give Sami this pep talk for no reason -- her touching moment when Johnny was gone made sense, her telling Sami about EJ was so that her grandkids wouldn't be kidnapped. Kate has an endgame here and it's to destroy Madison, she'll use Sami to do it.

Now, I know she's not going to try and destroy her like she did Chloe -- but that's because there's no reason to. But don't tell me for a second you think that Kate wouldn't go after Sami (mother of her grandkids or not) if she felt threatened again. That's why the earlier scenes made sense to me. Kate and Sami sparring early on when they got the rival companies going is exactly what they'd do, rivals spar. Even if they don't hate each other to the death, soap rivals will always have a fun retort with one another. Kate also got pissed off when Austin went to stay with Sami, because she doesn't trust her. But she got over it. If Sami were to become romantically interested in Austin again though, please believe Kate will take her down. She'd do the same if Sami were pursuing a relationship with Lucas again. They're only not at each other's throats because there's no reason to be anymore.

Kate can respect Sami all she wants, but I don't think she in any way likes her. It's just that Sami isn't in her crosshairs anymore. I don't for one second think she would give Sami this pep talk for no reason -- her touching moment when Johnny was gone made sense, her telling Sami about EJ was so that her grandkids wouldn't be kidnapped. Kate has an endgame here and it's to destroy Madison, she'll use Sami to do it.

Now, I know she's not going to try and destroy her like she did Chloe -- but that's because there's no reason to. But don't tell me for a second you think that Kate wouldn't go after Sami (mother of her grandkids or not) if she felt threatened again. That's why the earlier scenes made sense to me. Kate and Sami sparring early on when they got the rival companies going is exactly what they'd do, rivals spar. Even if they don't hate each other to the death, soap rivals will always have a fun retort with one another. Kate also got pissed off when Austin went to stay with Sami, because she doesn't trust her. But she got over it. If Sami were to become romantically interested in Austin again though, please believe Kate will take her down. She'd do the same if Sami were pursuing a relationship with Lucas again. They're only not at each other's throats because there's no reason to be anymore.

I don't agree.

I think Kate is "over" hating Sami. I think the relationship has evolved to the point where Sami's been such a disaster, over and over and over again that Kate doesn't need to bother with her anymore, Sami self destructs all on her own without any help. In saying that, Kate sees Sami as a less than worthy adversary. Sami's someone who walks along the sidewalk just as a bus passes by, hits a puddle and soaks her. Kate knows this.

Kate wins more than she loses. Even when she loses, she sort of wins. Kate's paid her dues and has lost a lot of people in the process but she perseveres. Sami, everyone sticks with Sami, regardless of the heinous things she's done because they pity her.

And that's where Kate is now, she sees Sami as a once worthy enemy who is now someone to be pitied.