Members DRW50 Posted May 3, 2011 Members Share Posted May 3, 2011 I do think Tom and Margo were integral to ATWT for their first ten years. It seems like they, along with James, carried ATWT's early 80s. Then I would say that after a few years of HBS, Margo became the show's most relateable, central heroine - a sometimes bitter and self-righteous woman, but also very funny, very vulnerable, and never a victim, a real contrast to the younger and more fairy tale heroines like Sierra or Lily. That continued with Ellen Dolan in the role, as Tom and Margo were rock-solid, and had so many funny, light scenes, everyday scenes, contrasting with big drama. After Ellen left, things fell apart, and they were never the same, even after her return. Aside from a few nice moments towards the end of the show, I often struggled to believe the same woman was playing Margo that I was so very fond of when I got hooked on ATWT in the early 90's. And Tom became beyond pointless, shouty, and devoid of any heart or humor. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members YRBB Posted May 3, 2011 Members Share Posted May 3, 2011 LOL Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members P.J. Posted May 3, 2011 Members Share Posted May 3, 2011 It's also hard for me (as a viewer of ATWT from the late '70's on) to think of Bob and Lisa as a romantic couple. While Lisa obviously mellowed over the years, I got the feeling Lisa was more of a social-climber than seriously in love with Bob. And I don't consider James and Barbara a romantic couple either. Contrary to most (probably) I got weary of HBS as Margo. I always saw her Margo as a hypocrite and borderline moron. I still remember yelling at her NOT to enter that secret passageway while 8 months pregnant to go after Babs' would-be rapist. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members DRW50 Posted May 3, 2011 Members Share Posted May 3, 2011 I also don't see Bob and Lisa as a couple. Within a year or two of their marriage, Lisa was already cheating on him, and although she was sometimes jealous or pined for him later on, if she ever got back together with him she would have gotten bored quickly. Bob meanwhile never looked back after divorcing Lisa. I think Bob and Lisa were good as friends and I always enjoyed scenes with Don and Eileen, but they were never a definitive couple in any supercouple sense. The story was mostly about Lisa's schemes and her restlessness. Oh I can see why you felt this way! Going into the passageway, going to Greece and hurting Tom and Lien with this lie instead of just being honest. She could be very selfish or thoughtless. I just think HBS always played this off with vulnerability and hurt and it made you understand Margo. Her work with Gregg Marx after the miscarriage was some of the finest I've ever seen on a soap. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members soapfan770 Posted May 3, 2011 Members Share Posted May 3, 2011 I think Tom and Margo did suffer from a lot of bad writing ie PTSD, mid-life crisis affairs (Emily, Doc Reese), and bad secrets. Not mention they were backurned and Margo had to prop Katie. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Khan Posted May 3, 2011 Members Share Posted May 3, 2011 Again, I don't deny that Tom and Margo's stories toward the end of ATWT were often awful, but even when they were, there was never a doubt in my mind that they belonged to each other, or that they wouldn't work things out. Not even when Tom had that affair with Emily. I disagree. I think Erica's best romances were with Jeremy Hunter, Brandon Kingsley and Mike Roy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Khan Posted May 3, 2011 Members Share Posted May 3, 2011 Maybe at first. As time wore on, however, and especially after her affairs w/ Bruce Eliot and Scott Eldridge's bio dad had fizzled, Lisa came to appreciate what she had had with Bob, and what she had thrown away in pursuit of a more worldly and glamorous lifestyle. Even as both moved onto other relationships, the thought of reconciling w/ Bob was never far from Lisa's mind. Unfortunately, Bob's pride wouldn't allow him to go down that road again. Plus, as someone else said, even if she had reunited with him, Lisa's need for glamour and romance would have botched everything again. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members LoyaltoAMC Posted May 3, 2011 Members Share Posted May 3, 2011 Wow, I forgot about Mike Roy. They were great together. She was also great with Nick Davis. I liked Jeremy better with Natalie. I think Jack and Erica work because Walt and Susan obviously adore each other and enjoy working with one another. There's a comfort level there that enhances their chemistry, but I would say that Dimitri was her most dynamic romance. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Steve Posted May 3, 2011 Members Share Posted May 3, 2011 I'd go with the same couples in a different order: 1. Greg & Jenny 2. Cliff & Nina 3. Tad & Dixie 4. Phil & Tara 5. Chuck & Donna +1. Greg & Jenny were AMC's most popular couple of all time when the ratings were at their peak. I think Cliff & Nina would be a close second. As popular as Tad & Dixie were, and as much as I personally love them, I don't think they compare. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members AMCFan2 Posted May 4, 2011 Members Share Posted May 4, 2011 While I liked many of Erica's romances (Mike Roy #1 the first time; Jeremy; ) I was one of the few that never got the Dimitri thing. He never did it for me as a character or in the relationship but I'm not a big "romance" person for my couples. I like the strife and the battle to get back what always is taken away, so my favorite for her has always been Jack because that's what they've been about since they were hiding from Travis. I think Erica will be remembered with him if they end the show with them being together. If they don't let them have the happy ending (which would totally suck, IMO) than my feeling may change. IA about SL/WW's chemistry. It's a physical one as well as a closeness between them that they carry on to the characters. After reading Susan's book and her many compliments to him, it feels that much stronger to me now. I don't necessarily like these couples I've chosen but thought they made a mark on the show and will be remembered as such. So my choices for AMC would be: 1. Erica and Jack or Mike Roy 2. Jesse and Angie 3. Tad and Dixie 4. Greg and Jenny 5. Haley and Mateo 6. Zach and Kendall OLTL: Vicki and Joe Larry and Meredith (they were big when I started watching) Larry and Karen Max and Gabrielle Tina and Cord GH Luke and Laura Leslie and Rick Scott and Laura Sonny and Carly Anna and Duke Robert and Holly Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members OldGHFan Posted May 4, 2011 Members Share Posted May 4, 2011 GH Luke & Laura Robert & Holly Frisco & Felicia Duke & Anna Sonny & Brenda DAYS Doug & Julie Roman & Marlena Bo & Hope Steve & Kayla Jack & Jennifer AMC Phil & Tara Cliff & Nina Greg & Jenny Jesse & Angie Tad & Dixie OLTL Clint & Vicki Cord & Tina Y&R Victor & Nikki Nick & Sharon Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Paul Raven Posted May 5, 2011 Members Share Posted May 5, 2011 Some others The Doctors Matt and Maggie Steve and Carolee Althea and Nick Mike and Toni Re OLTL Would posters put Karen and Larry up there?Shortly after their marriage she was turning tricks,hardly a great love there! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members quartermainefan Posted May 5, 2011 Members Share Posted May 5, 2011 Erica and Jack are horrible and have been horrible for 20 years. He is her doormat, perpetually waiting for her while she checks out her options. He gives men a bad name. Mike gets my vote, but I wouldn't cite any Erica pairing as being a defining element of the show. She is what defined the show, not she and someone else. Whereas you can't have Greg without Jenny, you can't have Cliff without Nina, there is no thinking of Luke without Laura, and where Tina goes Cord is sure to follow. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Khan Posted May 5, 2011 Members Share Posted May 5, 2011 Although Jack was right not to lie for Erica at Bianca's custody hearing, I feel like that should have been a definite and permanent parting for the two. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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