25 minutes ago, KMan101 said:

 

I can't recall much either. I feel like it was panned but I could be wrong. It would definitely garner way more attention today.

I think it was panned, now that you mention it. 

It was panned a few times on that show on the E! Network that use to recap moments from the week.

Edited July 10, 20214 yr by DemetriKane

14 minutes ago, DemetriKane said:

It was panned a few times on that show on the E! Network that use to recap moments from the week.

You mean The Soup?

9 minutes ago, amybrickwallace said:

You mean The Soup?

Yes.

I do recall SOD covering it pretty excitingly when it first started but then Carolyn H. soured on it quickly (the name was of course immediately a cause for mockery) and the coverage died down. 
Which, to be fair, is pretty much a logical way for things to go: interest in a groundbreaking and potentially original story and then letdown and moving it back to how you'd treat any other failing story.
As messy as Carolyn H. was I wish there was an archive of her columns online. Some of them were funny and biased as she was, it would be a fun trip to the past.

1 hour ago, DemetriKane said:

It was panned a few times on that show on the E! Network that use to recap moments from the week.

The "isn't it obvious? I have a penis" moment the Soup used has stuck with me and my ex for years, including the dramatic and mournful reaction shots of Jacob Young, Alexa Havins, etc. It was just too much and I thought Carlson was often the wrong side of hysterical camp.

I think on paper, the story was ahead of its time. In execution it was a mess on many levels.

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1 hour ago, Vee said:

 

I think on paper, the story was ahead of its time. In execution it was a mess on many levels.

I guess the original sin was probably to try this storyline with a *rock star*
Setting aside the dumbness of the name the entire idea of selling this under the guise of a Peter Burns type celebrity was both a mistake because it screamed camp from the get-go (can't blame Carlson for going there: again he was playing a rock star named Zarf. Why wouldn't he think camp?) and it actually undermined the thoughtful human aspect by making it too easy for the part of the audience who wouldn't warm to the story to dismiss as showbiz eccentricity.
The starting point needed to be a relatable human being - a bit like why the Bianca coming out story worked so well - and then take the audience on a journey with them. 

 

5 hours ago, amybrickwallace said:

This story probably would have gotten a lot more mainstream attention today. I don't recall the Zarf story getting even much attention from the soap press back then, or maybe it's just me.

I think Timeout New York did a small article.  McHackish got the idea from watching TransGeneration on Logo. When Logo actually aired  LGBTQIA programing. Zarf and the Satin Slayer airing concurrently. Being the only two stories for months. Was a really lousy idea. A real shame that such a great groundbreaking idea was ruined.

13 hours ago, FrenchBug82 said:

I do recall SOD covering it pretty excitingly when it first started but then Carolyn H. soured on it quickly (the name was of course immediately a cause for mockery) and the coverage died down. 
Which, to be fair, is pretty much a logical way for things to go: interest in a groundbreaking and potentially original story and then letdown and moving it back to how you'd treat any other failing story.
As messy as Carolyn H. was I wish there was an archive of her columns online. Some of them were funny and biased as she was, it would be a fun trip to the past.

 

I agree on her columns lol. I'd love to go down memory lane.

11 hours ago, victoria foxton said:

 Zarf and the Satin Slayer airing concurrently. Being the only two stories for months. Was a really lousy idea. A real shame that such a great groundbreaking idea was ruined.

It really is a shame on all accounts. That was a rough period.

1 hour ago, KMan101 said:

I agree on her columns lol. I'd love to go down memory lane.

Me three!! I wrote in a few times to her column in the early years but never got published. I don't even remember what I wrote in about. 😂

15 hours ago, Vee said:

I think on paper, the story was ahead of its time. In execution it was a mess on many levels.

Yes.

 

14 hours ago, FrenchBug82 said:

IThe starting point needed to be a relatable human being - a bit like why the Bianca coming out story worked so well - and then take the audience on a journey with them. 

True. His first 3/4 months on canvas needed to be handled with care and then slowly pill back his layers and reveal his secret to the audience. 

1 hour ago, amybrickwallace said:

Me three!! I wrote in a few times to her column in the early years but never got published. I don't even remember what I wrote in about. 😂

I got published once in the 2000s. It was something about soaps not being in a place to pat themselves in the back for including more LGBT characters - albeit great progress - until the real-life actors and actresses also started feeling comfortable coming out.
The fact that by then there had STILL been no out LGBT actor in daytime by that time and only a handful of long-gone actors had dared coming out showed that gay characters were not enough to consider the industry inclusive when even obviously gay actors (spoiler alert: I had LeBlanc and Watkins in mind with that line) were still too scared to come out.
I was STUNNED it was published but I was pretty damn proud. Still have the issue somewhere.

Lord knows Carolyn H had her pets and I didn't always agree but it was still my favorite part of SOD to read because bitchiness is my jam and mocking nonsense in soaps while still celebrating the genre is exactly where I am at.

10 minutes ago, FrenchBug82 said:

I was STUNNED it was published but I was pretty damn proud. Still have the issue somewhere.

Awesome! Post it here when/if you find it.

https://www.soapoperadigest.com/content/all-my-children-kane-women-virtual-interview/?fbclid=IwAR0BR6tJxDzXvZHC2ImbG7PRL25sl6pz4kXXELgHJKMcBuOOBKNml57ltX4

Alan Locher will reunite ALL MY CHILDREN’s Susan Lucci (ex-Erica), Alicia Minshew (ex-Kendall) and Eden Riegel (ex-Bianca) on his YouTube show, The Locher Room. The trio will be live on Wednesday, July 21 at 3 p.m. ET to reminisce about their time in Pine Valley, their friendship and more. The live interview can be viewed herefor the full story.

 

the same ole, same ole.