ABC May Be Ready To Trim Its Daytime Drama Lineup: Will 'All My Children' Go?

The thing is sad about AMC being cancelled is AMC is one of the biggest soaps of all time and has such a legacy with ABC and with the soap world. Its sad that its going to happen but if I were the network exec of this company and I had a SHOW that was making me LITTLE TO NO MONEY, its gotta go. In business its all about dollars and cents and when a show isn't producing that amount necessary its cancelled. AMC being cancelled is sad but it really is just the sign of the times that soaps are over. Its not profitable to keep these shows on air when there are much lower cost alternatives such as a talk show, game show, or a reality soap ala Housewives or Big Brother. I am sad but NOT SURPRISED as we all knew the beginning of the end and especially with SOAPNET GONE. Soaps will go down as an extinct artform. The problem what happened is we have our iphones with all these apps, cable channels, women ae working together, nobody likes committment tv these days. The world has changed today. Honestly AMC lived about 2-3 years longer then it should have. In NY it was a financial disaster by end, they were freaking out on how to produce the show as it was costing more then what it was making.

We all know its AMC. Just announce it and get on with it.

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Well AMC is still casting people...so I don't know. Side gigs, guests spots, I can see that, but I guess it's just hard for me to believe the actors would already be out pounding the pavement looking for work. Unless they canned the show long before September, but I don't know if there's enough time to wrap before summer.

Who knows. Yeah, I'm gonna say it...it's all STILL just hearsay. We'll find out soon what the real deal is.

ATWT did the same thing before it was canceled.

Sounds like ATWT. They brought on newbies right until the very end. Mick, Gabriel, Blackthorn, etc.

Yup

that makes sense, why cancel a soap now? Wait and see how they do in Jan and Feb and if nothing changes, end AMC in the summer of 2012 and OLTL and the end of that year, but why not wait six months and see what happens post soapnet?

AMC ratings arent going to improve. They are going to get worse. Why wait a whole year and avoid the inevitable.

Poor Daniel Cosgrove. He maybe the kiss of death for soaps lol.

He sure is GL, ATWT..90210 and now AMC.

Edited March 21, 201114 yr by Soapsuds

I don't think an announcement will come this week. It will come out in April. That's the popular month for bad news for soaps. Watch it be April 1 that they tell us AMC is canceled.

This isn't just about the soaps, Frons, which show tests better, etc... this is about how ABC Daytime fits in with the network as a whole. How is ABC Family doing? How is the news division doing? What about the internet? Overseas? I love AMC but if I were running ABC I'd have no problem with replacing AMC with the "Male View" and OLTL with a lifestyle show a la Martha Stewart. (Perhaps something with B. Smith and one of the Queer Eye guys.) And if those failed, I'd replace them with L&O/ER repeats.

Economically there's no reason to stick with soaps in their present form. There just isn't.

Didn't lifestyle shows like the Home Show previously flop for ABC in daytime?

The Male View would also likely flop in daytime, as it did before.

ABC is just replacing failure with failure. If they are going to worry about cutting costs they might as well just junk all the original programming in daytime for reruns, because so far CBS isn't getting very good results from their move.

Edited March 21, 201114 yr by CarlD2

Didn't lifestyle shows like the Home Show previously flop for ABC in daytime?

The Male View would also likely flop in daytime, as it did before.

ABC is just replacing failure with failure. If they are going to worry about cutting costs they might as well just junk all the original programming in daytime for reruns, because so far CBS isn't getting very good results from their move.

Nothing you say here is an argument FOR soaps though. It's just an argument against the (cheaper, easier to produce) replacements. Like it or not, there's no argument for keeping soaps any on the air. They cost too much and make too little. CBS might not be getting very good results but the results (read: profit) are as good as any the soaps were getting.

But I agree they'd be better off with repeats. A CSI/ER/Alias rerun block would be pure profit.

Edited March 21, 201114 yr by marceline

The thing is sad about AMC being cancelled is AMC is one of the biggest soaps of all time and has such a legacy with ABC and with the soap world. Its sad that its going to happen but if I were the network exec of this company and I had a SHOW that was making me LITTLE TO NO MONEY, its gotta go. In business its all about dollars and cents and when a show isn't producing that amount necessary its cancelled. AMC being cancelled is sad but it really is just the sign of the times that soaps are over. Its not profitable to keep these shows on air when there are much lower cost alternatives such as a talk show, game show, or a reality soap ala Housewives or Big Brother. I am sad but NOT SURPRISED as we all knew the beginning of the end and especially with SOAPNET GONE. Soaps will go down as an extinct artform. The problem what happened is we have our iphones with all these apps, cable channels, women ae working together, nobody likes committment tv these days. The world has changed today. Honestly AMC lived about 2-3 years longer then it should have. In NY it was a financial disaster by end, they were freaking out on how to produce the show as it was costing more then what it was making.

Sorry, I think it is a copout to blame other choices for the reason that soaps

are dying. Soaps are in trouble because they refuse to listen to their audience

and the audience is more than willing to move on to something that will give them

what they want. Executives still believe they know what fans SHOULD want. "You say

you like bananas, but apples are so much better." It is the same people making

the same bad decisions. I feel bad for the crews of these shows, the people who depend on the show for their livings. Fans say what they want, but after no one listening for years, fans aren't going to stick around and when you lose your base you are screwed and that is what happened with AMC. AMC lost its heart by letting go of so many actors that the audience was connected with. I still believe if they put out a good product the fans would return and it has nothing to do with apps or cable TV.

They cost too much and make too little.

And that's the problem....and why dont they make money?? No one watches anymore because of s h itty writing.

Nothing you say here is an argument FOR soaps though. It's just an argument against the (cheaper, easier to produce) replacements. Like it or not, there's no argument for keeping soaps any on the air. They cost too much and make too little. CBS might not be getting very good results but the results (read: profit) are as good as any the soaps were getting.

But I agree they'd be better off with repeats. A CSI/ER/Alias rerun block would be pure profit.

I guess to me, if a soap that has been used and abused for years is getting the same ratings as a shiny new show that is getting lots of love and money from a network, then that means the soaps could have been more if someone at the network or the company that owned the soap had just made an effort. That's not true for all soaps, I know, but I think it is true for some. Whether it would be true for AMC or OLTL, I don't know, but it was only in 2009 that AMC had a ratings jump. Some of the soaps that are in such disrepair probably still get about as much 18-49 as daytime will get in those slots. The networks just seem to keep putting in things that most 18-49 would have no interest in anyway, so maybe they don't care about that demo. If they don't then I'm even more confused about what they're doing.

I think if the network made a serious effort to fix these shows they would have some long-term potential again, whereas I think just putting in the stuff they keep putting in is another way to kill off original programming in daytime altogether.

Edited March 21, 201114 yr by CarlD2

I guess to me, if a soap that has been used and abused for years is getting the same ratings as a shiny new show that is getting lots of love and money from a network, then that means the soaps could have been more if someone at the network or the company that owned the soap had just made an effort. That's not true for all soaps, but I do think it was in the case of ATWT - they had had decent ratings only a few years before, and went up again in its last year. Whether it would be true for AMC or OLTL, I don't know, but it was only in 2009 that AMC had a ratings jump.

I think if the network made a serious effort to fix these shows they would have some long-term potential again, whereas I think just putting in the stuff they keep putting in is another way to kill off original programming in daytime altogether.

True...ATWT did go up its last year. GL never did that until its last week on the air.

I took that part out because I remembered 18-49 was supposedly one reason they were cut, but it still seems odd to me because CBS is doing nothing to get 18-49 viewers in that slot even without ATWT. With a less hideous teen or young adult scene they might have improved their 18-49. No one cared about fixing the show.

I took that part out because I remembered 18-49 was supposedly one reason they were cut, but it still seems odd to me because CBS is doing nothing to get 18-49 viewers in that slot even without ATWT. With a less hideous teen or young adult scene they might have improved their 18-49. No one cared about fixing the show.

Nope they kept Goutman & Co. till the end and to add insult.....the beyotch soap killer Pissy got a job at OLTL......UGH!!

Just realized April 1 is next Friday so we could get news about cancellation next week.

There were a few times this year OLTL was number 1 in viewers for ABC soaps. The show really is doging the huge bullet. I honestly believe the AMC move was meant to cancel OLTL. AMC had all this money, promotion, Kelly Ripa return and everything invested. The biggest flop of the move they couldn't keep Lorriane as head writer and they would not fire Julie. Show needed a new executive producer badly. Plus Frons tried to get McTavish back as Jamey reported months ago. My source info is McTavish had big demands and one of them was huge creative control and firing Julie. McTavish saved Frons ass back in 2003. Show was in tiolet and during Cambias/baby switch AMC was having huge surges in ratings. In 2005 she went south and then 2007 was fired by Frons. It was very bitter firing. As she got all blame for Dixie mess but Julie came out unscathed. OLTL being in the final five soaps, WOWsa whoever would have thought this. If anyone would have told u five years ago OLTL would remain over AMC, wouldn't u think this person was on drugs?

It cannot have been too bitter. Megan was Frons' date to the Broadway Cares event that year, mere hours after he fired her!

I still think publishing more tie in products, like more of the glossy books and stuff, would help. They can't be that expensive to make and the hardcore fans would surely buy them. Oh, AMC.

Edited March 21, 201114 yr by alexisfan07

What's funny is how misogynistic Pratt's AMC was, and that flopped, yet OLTL is at the moment yet it does well in focus groups

Poor Daniel Cosgrove. He maybe the kiss of death for soaps lol.

OMG will people just stop with this. He was on AMC years ago, he's the best thing to happen to this show in ages