Y&R

Monday: 3.9/5,505,000

Tuesday: 3.8/5,223,000

Wednesday: 3.8/5,327,000

Thursday: 3.5/4,854,000

Friday: 3.4/4,768,000

Wow! 3.9 and 2 3.8's

From what I can see it hasn't beaten OLTL as of yet. Will it? Hope not, but we'll see.

In total viewers, no. But The Talk HAS beaten OLTL many times in the all important demos. There is no question that The Talk is a sucess. It costs about a third of ATWT, gets the same demos, no P&G meddling. The Talk has been a goldmine for CBS.

But The Talk HAS beaten OLTL many times in the all important demos.

Oh really?

The Talk has been a goldmine for CBS.

I don't doubt that part at all.

In total viewers, no. But The Talk HAS beaten OLTL many times in the all important demos. There is no question that The Talk is a success. It costs about a third of ATWT, gets the same demos, no P&G meddling. The Talk has been a goldmine for CBS.

Pretty much. No matter how much people love OLTL or the soap genre, it's simply willing ignorance to act like The Talk isn't a business success. If you were an investor with money to spend, would you buy shares of CBS Daytime with its cheap, fresh, quick profits or ABC with its old, expensive, rapidly dwindling audience?

I don't understand the whole OLTL/"The Talk" smackdown. Some people act as if it is sacrilegious to admit that they watch and/or like "The Talk" or, that it is competitive with OLTL.

While it may not do anything to help launch a new soap, has anyone ever thought that the success of "The Talk" could be good news for the rest of the CBS Daytime schedule? If a non-soap viewer tunes into "The Talk" and likes it, then who is to say that that same viewer cannot be enticed to watch Y&R or B&B (witness the recent visit to "The Talk" by Eric Braeden).

Clearly CBS is committed to the soaps it has left, giving out multi-year deals for both. So quit acting like "The Talk" is the end of civilization as we know it, or that those people who watch it are evil, stupid, or need to be stoned in the town square (stoned, as in form of punishment, not of the drug variety).

Y&R

Monday: 3.9/5,505,000

Tuesday: 3.8/5,223,000

Wednesday: 3.8/5,327,000

Thursday: 3.5/4,854,000

Friday: 3.4/4,768,000

Wow! 3.9 and 2 3.8's

Back from vacation...

Go Y&R!, the show has such a large potential audience. Not a fan of MaBell and Co., but they do steer a steady ship. Wish the same could be said for B&B which, if something radical isn't done, will soon cease to be one of the 'Special Soaps'. You'd think 9% unemployment and a drop in cable sales would be helping soaps.

OLTL has just stalled and is starting to really remind me of ATWT. Pissy and Simon's have both had a major impact on story. I'll bet anything that they've seriously considered Trent Dawson as a David recast. RC needs to save his show!

OLTL has just stalled and is starting to really remind me of ATWT. Pissy and Simon's have both had a major impact on story. I'll bet anything that they've seriously considered Trent Dawson as a David recast. RC needs to save his show!

OLTL's stories were a mess long before Passanante showed up. She's a bad writer, but I don't think any of her particular trademarks have seeped in yet.

I actually wish they would recast Trent Dawson as David. At least he would actually stay around. I am sick of the show stopping dead every few months so Tuc Watkins can bellow PA! and pull a wacky face.

Back from vacation...

Go Y&R!, the show has such a large potential audience.

Yet they only write for a tiny fraction of them.

OLTL has just stalled and is starting to really remind me of ATWT. Pissy and Simon's have both had a major impact on story. I'll bet anything that they've seriously considered Trent Dawson as a David recast. RC needs to save his show!

Trent Dawson. Hmmm, maybe. I don't think the show is bad. In fact, it's been pretty good since they've taken the focus off of the "teens".

AMC has about 632-635,000 there right? Definitely best since May. It's the 5th most viewed for them since mid-March. Most viewed week overall for them in ten months as well.

Very happy to see that last weeks' cliffhangers and the drama had an impact on the ratings, as I hoped they would! Thank goodness, sometimes quality does get noticed, although not often. Monday through Thursday were stronger in the ratings for AMC and that was from great cliffhangers and storytelling Monday-Wednesday. Thursday's cliffhanger was weak, and Friday was weaker in the ratings for AMC compared to the other AMC soaps. It is almost too perfect a correlation.

Yes, all ABC soaps did better, but AMC was beginning to be seen as something of a particularly struggling soap, so this is still great. And not only good news in the overall, but also in the demos!

However, the negative is, if this was Damon/Liza and Annie-driven, then that's not going to help when a couple of those characters are off the show. I prefer to hope it was cliffhanger and story quality-driven.

I'm also happy to see AMC finally show some life ratingswise. Imo, the show has gotten much better lately although I am also concerned that the loss of both Annie & Natalia might damage them in the future. ITA about the cliffhangers and unfortunately, this week they really didn't have any great ones. Next week sounds really good from the spoilers, though, so hopefully they can maintain the rise and keep going up!

Please, OLTL's stories were sh!t long before Passanante showed up. Let's not pretend Jean's holding Ron at gunpoint, threatening to shoot him if he tries to put one of his delightful stories on the air.

Anyway, I wish they would just cut the f'n soaps down to half-hour.

Back from vacation...

Go Y&R!, the show has such a large potential audience. Not a fan of MaBell and Co., but they do steer a steady ship. Wish the same could be said for B&B which, if something radical isn't done, will soon cease to be one of the 'Special Soaps'. You'd think 9% unemployment and a drop in cable sales would be helping soaps.

OLTL has just stalled and is starting to really remind me of ATWT. Pissy and Simon's have both had a major impact on story. I'll bet anything that they've seriously considered Trent Dawson as a David recast. RC needs to save his show!

You are really delusional when it comes to OLTL. I also don't understand why you are trying to pimp ex-ATWT actors to the show. I am pretty sure nobody has thought about bringing Trent Dawson on as David. And I thought OLTL were going to get ATWT viewers? 4 months later, and OLTL is still not in 3rd place like you predicted. LOL

Please, OLTL's stories were sh!t long before Passanante showed up. Let's not pretend Jean's holding Ron at gunpoint, threatening to shoot him if he tries to put one of his delightful stories on the air.

THAT actually sounds like a story Ron would put on the air.

Steep drops for B&B. Having middle-aged Amber return to repeat her old stories from the Clinton era doesn't help ratings?

Snort! You owe me a new keyboard for that line, LOL. (I happen to like the story, though, but your line is excellent).

I use that line over and over but I'm glad it got a laugh.

Hmmmmmmmm...nice to see that AMC isn't dead last for a change.