Members Broderick Posted January 8 Members Share Posted January 8 Ha, yes, Vince was utterly horrid too, and Rose DeVille would often lambast him loudly by calling him a "ninny" or a "stupid fool". They were like "Honest John" & "Gideon" in Pinocchio, that terrible fox & cat who were always trying to hoodwink Pinocchio. They typically escaped at the last minute, presumably because Bill Bell had hopes of using them yet again at some point in the future. He could've easily tied them to the crime syndicate storyline in the early 1980s, but he declined, probably because he'd have to kill them off in a shoot-out. He waited until all of the mob storylines were over, and they came crawling up again circa 1986 to hold expectant mothers hostage & sell black-market babies -- a crime they could potentially escape from. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members will81 Posted January 9 Members Share Posted January 9 They went to jail in 1980, which was when the "kill switch" for Cy the assassin went off for Greg which resulted in Liz being shot. Maybe they were there for 6 years. I don't think it's ever mentioned. Can't remember if they went to prison in 1979 for the sex trafficking. If they did it must have been a light sentence since they were back at it a couple of months later. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members YRfan23 Posted January 9 Members Share Posted January 9 Haha yeah, I do see the "Honest John and Gideon" comparison! Please register in order to view this content Funny enough Pinocchio must have driven some inspiration for Bill Bell, and writing for Rose, since the movie deals with child trafficking. Thankfully we didn't get any of that on the show. In 1995 I think the show was about to revisit the whole Rose angle, or at least they were toying with bringing on Nina's stolen baby....I wish Bill Bell would have gone through with that and had Darlene C. come over from B&B to reprise playing Rose....For an even better twist, maybe he could have had it that Matt Clark was a great nephew of Rose's and was using him as some sort of revenge on Nikki, and her entire family, so that all the stories involving Rose from the past could have climaxed into an epic finale. Thanks! I forget little details like that, and I thought it was Vince who shot Liz. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members soapfan770 Posted January 9 Members Share Posted January 9 I noticed that during the early years of Sally circa 1988-91 Sally did seem a more serious threat and felt like a semi-crime boss running Spectra Fashions, but eventually a lot more endearment and humor was added to the Spectra mix. Darlene did fantastic in both roles, playing nasty and scary Rose while playing larger than life and lovable Sally. @YRfan23 Don’t forget Sally once spooked the living daylights out of Sheila when Sally issued a death threat. Please register in order to view this content 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members YRfan23 Posted January 9 Members Share Posted January 9 Haha oh yeah! she was channeling Rose there for sure! 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Broderick Posted January 9 Members Share Posted January 9 Not so long ago, I was re-watching one of Sally Spectra's first scenes. She was having lunch in a restaurant with Stephanie Forrester. Sally kept making empty promises that she would make a LARGE DONATION (I believe the amount mentioned was $10,000) to one of Mrs. Forrester's charities, possibly a children's hospital. You could tell right away that Sally didn't have the money and wasn't a philanthropist by nature. Mrs. Forrester tossed Sally her fountain pen and encouraged Sally to go ahead and write the check. Sally frowned, dug around in her purse and said, "I seeeeeem to have forgotten my checkbook." Please register in order to view this content Right from the start, she was Rose DeVille 2.0 -- a morally bankrupt thief who was illegally stealing intellectual property from the Forresters, didn't have the social skills to conduct herself around "Queen Stephanie", and was as broke as a church mouse, pretending she'd forgotten her checkbook to weasel out of making a donation. As you said, she became more endearing and humorous over the years (and also wealthier), but in her earliest incarnation on B&B, she was almost as broke financially, socially, and culturally as Rose DeVille. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members janea4old Posted January 9 Members Share Posted January 9 (edited) technical glitch, deleting, will repost Edited January 9 by janea4old 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Soapsuds Posted January 10 Members Share Posted January 10 Please register in order to view this content 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members asafi Posted January 10 Members Share Posted January 10 can we see somewhere the episodes of Jessica's death? and funeral? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members DRW50 Posted January 11 Author Members Share Posted January 11 The start of this has a Mike Douglas Show promo featuring John McCook and Victoria Mallory (no idea if that episode is around). 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members fivethej Posted January 11 Members Share Posted January 11 Does anyone know the air date when Nikki found out that Sharon had bipolar disorder and apologized for being so tough on her? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Sapounopera Posted January 11 Members Share Posted January 11 Was Josh Taylor hired to play Nina's father? Jed was involved with major characters like Nikki and Jill. What is the story behind that? It seemed like Bill Bell got bored with him. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Sapounopera Posted January 11 Members Share Posted January 11 I loved this about Bill Bell. He didn't think that every question needs an answer. Sometimes characters and/or viewers have to just live with it. You are right, this story defined Nina. I wonder if the baby drama was written for Cricket's first pregnant friend Molly and then Bell saw Tricia Cast on Santa Barbara. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members SoapDope Posted January 11 Members Share Posted January 11 It seems like I remember Ashley running into seedy Vince along the way. Maybe when she had her mental break down or when she found out Brent Davis was her father ? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members fivethej Posted January 14 Members Share Posted January 14 Does anyone the air date when Victoria flirted with Malcolm? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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