2 hours ago, BoldRestless said:

Not a beef... an affair. Jeanne said Beau was the love of her life! But she felt she was too old for him.

 

Muhney was alleged to have groped Hunter King. There was also some petty drama between him and Eric Braeden, like parking in Braeden's spot and stuff like that. 

OMG…I never knew Jeanne and Beau had an affair!! I’m literally shocked lol. 

 

Yeah I thought it was something involving harassment. I didn’t know about the drama between he and Eric, though.

13 hours ago, kalbir said:

@will81The early months of 1997 had three big recasts: Victoria, Phyllis, Grace.

Oh yeah I totally remember them, just had a memory blip that forgot when certain stories happened and who was in them. Sarah Aldrich (I think) was the Victoria replacement and she was awful. I remember the day Heather came back and it was a relief. I think she was only gone six months

3 minutes ago, will81 said:

Oh yeah I totally remember them, just had a memory blip that forgot when certain stories happened and who was in them. Sarah Aldrich (I think) was the Victoria replacement and she was awful. I remember the day Heather came back and it was a relief. I think she was only gone six months

Sarah was a disaster. i guess the plan was to ease her in  so the audience would accept her but the the reaction seemed to be universally negative  and Victoria was hardly seen until HT returned.

Wasn't the claim at the time that she was always a fill-in and HT was on 'sabbatical?' I found that strange.

15 minutes ago, Vee said:

Wasn't the claim at the time that she was always a fill-in and HT was on 'sabbatical?' I found that strange.

Yes I remember hearing that but not sure if that was after Heather came back. Pretty sure Sarah was on contract so I would still see her as an official recast but yeah maybe it was never supposed to be for long. 

7 hours ago, Paul Raven said:

Sarah was a disaster. i guess the plan was to ease her in  so the audience would accept her but the the reaction seemed to be universally negative  and Victoria was hardly seen until HT returned.

 

7 hours ago, Vee said:

Wasn't the claim at the time that she was always a fill-in and HT was on 'sabbatical?' I found that strange.

HT last airdate: 2/21/97

SA first airdate: 4/2/97

SA last airdate 7/18/97

HT return airdate: 10/3/97

I don’t recall how Tom left although I wonder if Aldrich was supposed to be permanent as she was even added to the opening credits lol.

 

6 minutes ago, soapfan770 said:

 

HT last airdate: 2/21/97

SA first airdate: 4/2/97

SA last airdate 7/18/97

HT return airdate: 10/3/97

I don’t recall how Tom left although I wonder if Aldrich was supposed to be permanent as she was even added to the opening credits lol.

 

I could be totally wrong on this one but I recall it that Heather Tom had a nasty contract dispute and simply walked out on the show. That's why they had trouble to find an immediate replacement... Sarah Aldrich bombed and Eric Braeden was not happy with her, so producers asked Heather Tom to return which she did. That's how it was reported in the gossip columns of SOD and Soap Opera Update. When Heather Tom was back on screen, they suddenly made it all sound like it was planned all along as a sabbatical.

2 hours ago, sheilaforever said:

I could be totally wrong on this one but I recall it that Heather Tom had a nasty contract dispute and simply walked out on the show. That's why they had trouble to find an immediate replacement...

In 1997? The 2003 negotiation fell through due to a pay cut I remember, and Victoria was off screen from December 2003 until March 2005.

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18 hours ago, BoldRestless said:

Melody Thomas having a baby with the makeup artist then marrying Ed Scott

Was Ed Scott married to someone else when Melody had the baby with the makeup guy?

Had MTS not married ES would she have lasted on the show? I doubt that.

3 hours ago, Sapounopera said:

Was Ed Scott married to someone else when Melody had the baby with the makeup guy?

Had MTS not married ES would she have lasted on the show? I doubt that.

MTS and Ed married around 1985 and Nikki was very much a major character by that point with her lavish wedding to Victor and the quad with Ashley and Jack. I think Bell loved Nikki and would have kept her regardless, but how long do you think she would have lasted?

1 hour ago, will81 said:

MTS and Ed married around 1985 and Nikki was very much a major character by that point with her lavish wedding to Victor and the quad with Ashley and Jack. I think Bell loved Nikki and would have kept her regardless, but how long do you think she would have lasted?

A few years into the 80s just like Diane or Patty?

I think MTS's connection to ES took something that belonged to Jill away from her.

@Sapounopera I feel all of Y&R's backstage drama really began when ES took over as EP. Something about him has always given me s--t disturber vibes.

3 minutes ago, kalbir said:

@Sapounopera I feel all of Y&R's backstage drama really began when ES took over as EP. Something about him has always given me s--t disturber vibes.

And when you think about his DAYS stint...

42 minutes ago, Sapounopera said:

A few years into the 80s just like Diane or Patty?

I think MTS's connection to ES took something that belonged to Jill away from her.

I'd say 1987 when Victor planned to divorce her. Maybe instead he did and Nikki left town just as Ashley married Steven. I still think the quad with Ash/Vic/Jack/Nikki would have happened. But I don't know, he really pushed Nikki by about 1982 to be more a focus, especially once Kevin Bancroft came in. Patty was gone mostly due to a failed recast and Diane was never a major focus, more a supporting character. 

I think the recast with Jess also affected things. Bell might have liked Jess, but I also feel he lost a bit of interest in Jill once Brenda was gone. His inspiration for her was on the lower end and he basically had her recycle storylines for most of the 90's. But yeah I don't doubt Ed Scott pushed to keep MTS in the spotlight and a major focus. I have never liked Ed Scott, even though I do believe Brenda Dickson was getting difficult, I also believe Ed had something to do with her departure. Not sure why, just a hunch.

37 minutes ago, kalbir said:

@Sapounopera I feel all of Y&R's backstage drama really began when ES took over as EP. Something about him has always given me s--t disturber vibes.

John Conboy wasn't much better, he literally tried to take over the show and have Bell ousted. Kay Alden confirmed the power struggles between the two and Bell clearly had nothing nice to say about him in his Emmy legends interview. Though many of the cast seemed to like him, or say they did. 

Also the rumour that he charged a bunch of sets made for Captiol to Y&R and almost brought the show down as a result, never have been able to confirm this one though I have no trouble believing it. 

@will81 Yes, the John Conboy/Bill Bell beef has been documented. EB wrote about his dislike of John Conboy in his book.