Jump to content

Y&R: Old Articles


DRW50

Recommended Posts

  • Replies 14.3k
  • Created
  • Last Reply

Top Posters In This Topic

Top Posters In This Topic

Posted Images

  • Members

I had never seen Brenda’s Ashley before the classics started airing and I’ve grown a real fondness for her. Eileen is the only Ashley I knew and I’m a fan, but Brenda just has this effortless warmth to her that draws me in. Truthfully if Eileen is unwilling to commit to a contract I actually wouldn’t mind Brenda coming back. She has history with the existing vets already.

Link to comment
Share on other sites

  • Members

I just watched the 1982 clips in the vault and OMG we have been spoiled!

 

1982 Traci was so shy and withdrawn, especially with the longer hair and the way she was dressed. The change she would undergo just in the next few years is crazy. So cute seeing her and Angela bond (Liz Kiefer was actually damn good in this). That would have been a friendship I’d have loved to see grow throughout the years. I also love that they were already telegraphing the Traci and Danny stuff that would arise a year or so later.

 

I just wish we had clips of the actual wedding of Jack and Patti, including Ashley catching him in bed with Diane. That would have made my year! 1982 Ashley was YOUNG!! And again, the stuff she would be involved in only a few years later.

 

The scenes with Nikki and Caroline are hilarious. Who knew Nikki was such a bitch even back in 1982? Kevin is an absolute doll (and Christopher Holder was quite easy on the eye too). The Victor and Lorie storyline was awesome too - when was the ill-fated wedding where she left him the goodbye note?

 

And the Kay/Earl/Alison stuff - OMG Kay was so frickin catty with Alison, but I loved every moment.

 

THANK YOU to whoever uploaded those - they put a massive smile on my face!

Please register in order to view this content

Link to comment
Share on other sites

  • Members

I was about to say the same thing about Traci. She was so shy and self conscious about her appearance. How did they write Angela out ? Liz Keifer said she had signed a contract with the show and she assumed she would be there for a several years, but then she realized the hard cold facts that a contract doesn't mean squat and they can opt out at anytime.  I loved Lilibet Stern as Patty and remember being disappointed as a kid when she abruptly left and was replaced by Andrea Evans.

 

Tracey Bregman said she originally was offered to the role of Patty when Lilibet decide to depart, but Bell created the part of Lauren for her. She said originally she was supposed to be a good friend to Tracy, but Bill Bell saw something she did in a scene and realized he wanted to make her the bitch. Bregman said she loved playing the role as the mean girl, but it hurt her to say awful mean things to Beth Maitland and fretted over it. Beth told her it was just acting and don't worry about. She and Beth are still close after all these years. 

Link to comment
Share on other sites

  • Members

This would explain why Bell didn't just marry off Lance and Leslie and have them ride off into the sunset with Brooks. It seems Leslie was supposed to stick around with Robert, Angela and Claire. I guess Bell felt there was not strong enough story potential or that Leslie didn't fit into the new show, so he cut everyone connected to her loose. I am betting if Victoria had been kept, that Robert Colbert may have stayed on recurring as well (if he had wanted to).

 

80 - 82 was a crazy time, a lot of turn over and too many different characters and stories, the show just wasn't focused, so anyone could be gone, I'd say once JLB decided to leave, all bets were off. As a side note I spoke to Bond Gideon through message on the Y&R FB group. She stated that Conboy and Bell were happy with her, until her agent apparently played hardball and Conboy dismissed her. So it seems likely Bond would have been Jill, at least until Brenda decided to return, because I have no doubt Bell wanted Brenda back and would have made it happen. 

 

ETA: Angela left with her mother and father once Robert and Claire reunited. Seems to have happened very quickly, then Leslie took off a week or two later

Edited by will81
Link to comment
Share on other sites

  • Members

Thanks for the info. It's interesting that Bond could have been Jill for a while till Brenda came back. I wonder if she fired her agent after that ? 1980-82 was a crazy time period. I noticed too that in the 70's most of the men had been dark haired, but when the early 80's arrived it was mostly blonde men Lance, Lucas, Jack, Andy, Paul, Kevin, Cash, Greg, etc...

Link to comment
Share on other sites

  • Members

Yeah the 80's was all about blond hair, blue eyes and olive skin. The All American boy and girl next door look and was followed with the drive for status and wealth. Same with movies and primetime too. I think this was when the Boomers/Hippies sold out and became yuppies, haha. 

 

I definitely think Bond would have been around at least until 1983. Brenda did a Falcon's Crest guest shot in 1983 and I am certain Y&R put out the feelers about a return. In a Jan 83 SOD interview (probably done in late 82) Deborah Adair stated she had just renewed her contract with more money and an agreement for better story. I am guessing Bell probably enquired with Brenda if she would be willing to return, then waited out Deborah's contract. Look at Jill in 1983, she had little to do, then Brenda comes back and boom, 4 years of pretty solid story and the character is once again front and centre, instead of being a featured ensemble player.

 

Makes me wonder, if Bond had been Jill would Jerry Douglas have still been cast as John? 

Edited by will81
Link to comment
Share on other sites

  • Members

The first half of the 1980s we could clearly see the Dallas/Dynasty influence:

Victor Newman, billionaire businessman that owns and lives on a horse ranch.

The wealthy Abbott family owns and operates a cosmetics company.

Dina Abbott abandons her family and years later returns to Genoa City as wealthy widow Madame Dina Mergeron that has inherited her late husband's business which rivals her ex-husband's business.

 

Of course Victor or the Abbotts couldn't own an oil company in Wisconsin and Dina couldn't be a foreign diva that lives in a luxury penthouse as that would be too obvious 

Please register in order to view this content

 

I guess Bill Bell went with a cosmetics company for the Abbotts as that was more glamorous than say an artisan dairy or gourmet sausage or craft beer company, you know, things normally associated with Wisconsin 

 

Edited by kalbir
Link to comment
Share on other sites

  • Members

 

Once Nikki entered Victor's life, that part of the show suddenly resembled the 1964 movie "My Fair Lady", where the wealthy Henry Higgins had a jolly English friend (Colonel Hugh Pickering) who was mostly along for the ride on his rich friend's coattails, and together, the two of them conspired to turn Audrey Hepburn's low-class character (Eliza Doolittle) into a refined socialite.  I had often wondered if one or both of the Bell's were fans of that movie.

Link to comment
Share on other sites

  • Members

Many people remember Brett Halsey as John Abbott when Jill was hired. Then John is absent for several weeks and Sean Garrison pops up for a couple weeks before Brett Halsey is officially announced as John Abbott. 

 

None of this is confirmed, I have tried to research this as much as possible, but none of the soap press that I have found mentions it. 

Link to comment
Share on other sites

  • Members

For those watching the wondeful 1982 clips in the vault, this cast photo is from November 1982. There are a few absents (mostly Eric Braeden and Melody Thomas who might have been on pregnancy break).

 

Back row : Michael Damian (Danny Romalotti), Jay Kerr (Brian Forbes), Doug Davidson (Paul Williams), Michael Evans (Douglas Austin), Robert Colbert (Stuart Brooks), Steven Ford (Andy Richards), Ben Hammer (Alex Morgan)

Middle row : Suzanne Zenor (Claire Laurence), Beth Maitland (Traci Abbott), Eileen Davidson (Ashley Abbott), Terry Lester (Jack Abbott), Jeanne Cooper (Kay Chancellor), Jerry Douglas (John Abbott), Brett Hadley (Carl Williams), Mark Tapscott (Earl Bancroft), Christopher Holder (Brian Bancroft), Marguerite Ray (Mamie Johnson), Carolyn Conwell (Mary Williams), Patty Weaver (Gina Roma)

Front row : Deborah Adair (Jill Foster), Juliana McCarthy (Liz Foster Brooks), Victoria Mallory (Leslie Brooks), Lilibet Stern (Patty Williams Abbott), Lynn Wood (Allison Bancroft)

Floor : Peter Brown (Robert Laurence), Elizabeth Kiefer (Angela Laurence), DeAnna Robbins (Cindy Lake), Meg Bennett (Julia Newman), Brock Peters (Frank Lewis), Kristine DeBell (Pam Warren)

Please register in order to view this content

Link to comment
Share on other sites

Join the conversation

You can post now and register later. If you have an account, sign in now to post with your account.

Guest
Unfortunately, your content contains terms that we do not allow. Please edit your content to remove the highlighted words below.
Reply to this topic...

×   Pasted as rich text.   Paste as plain text instead

  Only 75 emoji are allowed.

×   Your link has been automatically embedded.   Display as a link instead

×   Your previous content has been restored.   Clear editor

×   You cannot paste images directly. Upload or insert images from URL.

  • Recently Browsing   0 members

    • No registered users viewing this page.



  • Recent Posts

    • How did I never notice how tall Colton was?

      Please register in order to view this content

    • They didn't need to have some slutty gay dude as their representation. Just a 'normal' guy getting involved with another guy or two (or three). Just like the straight characters. Thinking about it, they missed the boat by not having a few other single charcters at the beginning. Maybe Naomi or Ashley could be shown meeting Derek/Jacob and  we could follow their romance. Too many characters were coupled up at the start. As a tattoo hater I was surprised to see Tomas so inked. Don't find it attractive or sexy. I'm surprised an actor would do that as it's definitely a statement and may not be appropriate for some roles. Suppose they can cover if necessary. I didn't buy Kat being all girly and then paying off Darius to get into Eva's room. Way too cliche. She should have just come along when the housekeeping was leaving and breezed in saying it was her room. And her smug looks in the hotel room and 'Now I've got you!!' talks to herself at Orphey Gene's...no.  
    • Omg I was so annoyed. Like girl calm down. Coming on way too strong. Omg I forgot about this

      Please register in order to view this content

    • I thought it got stale before Jocks death lol. His death picked things back up for me.
    • 1976 Pt 5 Tony is summoned to the reading of the will in the Llanfair library,as he’s a principal in the will. He tells Joe there’s not a chance of coming to terms with Dorian, as he is sure she brought about Victor’s death by torturing him emotionally when he was her helpless prisoner after his stroke. Ironically, Chapin hand delivers to Viki a letter her father wrote before his stroke, praising Dorian and asking Viki to befriend and support his widow when he was no longer there. Viki feels a responsibility to her father’s wishes and vows to try with Dorian. Victor’s will leaves the expected amounts to members of his family and staff, with the lion’s share of his stock and property going to Dorian. Victor’s will explains that his son Tony expressed the desire that he not be “bought from the grave,” and, in keeping with his son’s wishes, the only bequest to him is the knowledge of his father’s love and respect. Tony is deeply moved. Dorian’s first attempt to use her new power is the recommendation of Peter as head of the Merideth Lord Wolek hospital wing, claiming that naming Larry would be virtual nepotism. Peter, who has devoted considerable time and effort to helping Jenny get over Tim’s death with gentle, affectionate support, is happy at this suggestion, but Jenny points out Dorian is merely using him to hurt Larry. Viki disregards Dorian’s ingenuous assurances that she’s not trying to wield her new power but is merely putting Peter up for consideration for a future opportunity, if not this one, and tells her she won’t be able to fulfill her father’s desire that they be friends unless Dorian stops interfering. Larry, fully understanding Dorian’s personal motives, warns her he’s going to fight for the appointment no matter what. Realizing that she has made a tactical error, Dorian announces that she won’t even attend the board meeting but will give her proxy to Jim. She admits to Matt McAllister, still her confidant, that this was humiliating, but it was a necessary protective tactic. Dorian manages to win her next round at Joe’s office when, after he praises her decision to yield on appointing Peter, she expresses concern for Viki “at a time like this.” Joe, of course, jumps on her words, and Dorian, pretending great distress at having mentioned something she shouldn’t have, is “forced” to explain that she knew about the congenital heart condition Megan had and that any child of Joe’s is likely to inherit it. She overheard the doctors discussing it at the time of the accident, she continues, and naturally assumed that Joe already knew.  Joe arranges a meeting at home with Viki and asks her how she could live a lie like this; how she could go through their lives as if everything were fine while every moment was a lie. He is further upset when, in trying to explain that it was out of her love for him that she kept the truth from him, she mentions that Jim and Larry also know but Cathy still hasn’t been told. Viki tells Joe that Dorian deliberately told him this way to hurt their marriage, and she is very upset when he starts toward the door, pleading that they have always talked things out in the past. Joe coolly points out that she didn’t do that when she learned about Megan and continues out the door.  A tearful Viki is shaken and when Joe later returns, having spent several hours in a bar drinking only soft drinks,she breaks down, crying that she was convinced he’d left her. Joe assures her they can get through this despite everything, because their relation is based on love and mutual respect. 
    • If you think about it, DALLAS and DYNASTY grew stale right about the same time, even if the ratings were slow to reflect that.  FC and KL, on the other hand, tried to stay fresh, but KL was way more successful at it, I think, than FC.  (That [!@#$%^&*] with The Thirteen does not hold up well, lol).
    • GH 1976 Pt 8 Heather takes advantage of the situation by asking Jeff to come and look at Tommy. She uses sympathy, compassion, and her own feminine wiles, together with his misery and his pills, to lure him into bed. Later, sober, he apologizes. Learning from Pearson that Monica has seen a divorce lawyer, Jeff confronts her, and she insists it’s a lie. Avoiding his attempts to kiss her, she musses her hair and tears her blouse, then rushes to Rick’s, claiming that she can’t stay with that maniac any longer. They wind up in Rick’s bed, and after making love he confesses he always loved her. Rick replies to her question of whether he wants to marry her by saying he has to talk to Jeff. Monica insists that Jeff not bear any pressure from their problems. As she leaves, Rick gives her a key to his apartment. Jeff, having spent the night drinking, misses his surgical assignment, and Steve, informing him that his personal life can’t interfere with his profession, puts him on suspension. Rick can’t persuade Steve to reverse his decision, but Mark, sensing what’s at the heart of Jeff’s problem, convinces Steve to lift Jeff’s suspension and transfer him to Mark’s service. Rick asks for his key back, telling Monica they can’t do anything as long as she’s under Jeff’s roof. So she has a duplicate made and moves into intern’s quarters, explaining that Jeff’s violence drove her out. She tells Jeff she needs privacy to work things out, and tells Rick Jeff wanted her out. Thinking that this is the preliminary to a divorce, Rick tells her she can come to his place. In New York, Leslie’s abortion is delayed by a mix-up in scheduling, and she calls Terri to commiserate. Rick overhears Terri’s conversation and forces the whole story from her. He flies to New York to stop Leslie, feeling responsible for pointing out how evil Cam was, and arrives to find that she has decided she can’t deny her child the right to live. Monica, meanwhile, expecting that Rick will be home, uses her key to let herself into his apartment and is shocked to find Mark there; knowing that Mark was uncomfortable at the hotel, Rick offered Mark use of the apartment in his absence. Monica is upset to learn that Rick is in New York with Leslie, and Mark doesn’t know why. Mark does advise Monica to play fair with Jeff, but she resents his interference. The next day, while covering for Leslie at the clinic, Monica discovers Leslie’s lab test report and jumps to the conclusion that the baby is Rick’s. When Rick and Leslie return, Monica wastes no time in accusing him. He is dismayed to see that she is still as suspicious and possessive as she was before he went to Africa, and points out that her making a duplicate  key proves she hasn’t changed. Terri encourages Leslie to see Rick in a romantic light and then suggests to Rick that Leslie is interested in him. Rick likes this idea and tells Mark he’s growing ‘unwilling to cope with Monica’s unreasonable demands. But Monica immediately recognizes the threat Leslie represents and decides to attack. She goes to Leslie and tells her flatly that she and Rick are having an affair and he’s her exclusive property. Leslie, who realizes she has been falling in love with Rick, is hurt, and Rick is mystified when he feels Leslie pulling away from him. Monica’s big moment comes when she brings Rick a housewarming gift and seduces him into letting her stay overnight. She is in the bedroom when Leslie stops by to apologize for refusing his dates, and makes a dramatic entrance into the living room draped in Rick’s bathrobe. Leslie turns and runs out. Rick later informs her he’s disappointed in her, because she prejudged Monica and him rather than giving him the benefit of the doubt. Heather tries to arrange another tryst with Jeff, but he replies that he still loves his wife. Heather decides there’s only one way to get Jeff to be pregnant with his child. She manages to overhear Monica putting Jeff down by telling him he no longer turns her on and should look for someone he does. Heather goes to Jeff and tells him that she heard Monica and that she is the one he’s looking for. She manages to get him into bed again, and sweetly assures him this is right. She then sets the stage for future meetings. Steve, meanwhile, offers to help Monica and Jeff work out their problems. Jeff is willing, but Monica turns the idea down. Instead, she presses Terri to convince Jeff to end the marriage. Terri now knows that Monica isn’t a good wife for Jeff and promises to try. But Jeff makes it clear to Monica that he still loves her and won’t let her go. She is bitter and upset, as she has already implied to Rick that she will soon be free. Audrey is upset to find that Florence Andrews has been inquiring about Tommy and herself. She goes to Florence’s home and finds she’s away now. Florence has gone down to Mexico to sign a sworn statement that she purchased a false death certificate for Tom, to protect his son after his wrongful conviction. Tom, learning from her that Steve and Audrey are to be married and Steve is planning to adopt Tommy, tells  Florence not to do anything, as there’s still no assurance that he’ll ever get out. But the judge does accept the statement, and, ironically, on the day that Steve  and Audrey are married, Tom is released from prison.
    • 1976 Pt 12 Final part Laurie agrees with Stuart that Peggy is rushing into marriage to prove that the rape didn’t ruin her life.  She points out that the only way Peg can be sure is to make love with Jack before the wedding. Stuart admits she’s right but points out that he can’t suggest that to Peggy. As the wedding approaches, Peg seems happy that Jack’s become close to the family. However, her happiness is shattered by a nightmare in which her loving bridegroom turns into a leering Ron Becker, forcing her to cancel the wedding. Jack reassures her he’ll wait as long as it takes, and Chris confides that she and Snapper didn’t consummate their marriage on their wedding night because of her own rape experience, but Peggy tells Chris she might never be ready.  Despite her desire to keep Karen as her own daughter, Chris helps a police artist create a sketch of Nancy so it can be printed in the newspaper as part of a search for her. When the attempt proves fruitless, however, Chris asks Greg to file application for permanent custody of the child. Greg points out that adoption is the only way to prevent Ron from returning and claiming the child, and that it will take quite a while. Meanwhile, a nurse in the psychiatric ward sees a resemblance  between the newspaper drawing and her autistic patient, Mrs. Jackson, but since “Fran” doesn’t respond to the name Nancy and no one else sees the similarity, she fears she’s mistaken. Jill is horrified to overhear Kay, when brihging baby Phillip a Christmas gift, telling the child she remembers the night he was conceived. Kay has to then admit to Jill she saw her with Phillip in the bunkhouse that night. Jill is aghast to realize that Kay new the truth all along and put her through such agony in spite of it, denying her baby his father’s name. Lance tells Laurie they’ll marry on Valentine’s Day. He laughs that it’s corny but agrees, secretly wishing it were sooner, as Vanessa has vowed to prevent it. Indeed, Vanessa makes an unprecedented venture out of the house to visit Brad, telling him to rebuff any advance Leslie might make to him, as she’s reaching out to him only from a sense of duty. But Laurie then makes a concerted effort to reach Vanessa. Without being sure why she’s trying so hard, she tries to assure the woman she’s not losing Lance and she, Laurie, will help her find a plastic surgeon somewhere who can help her. Grudgingly, Vanessa seems to be reconsidering her view of Laurie, and Laurie is delighted when Lance offers her a choice between two diamond necklaces, explaining that her preference will be Vanessa’s Christmas gift. Learning from Les about Brad’s blindness, Stuart tells Brad he could have turned Leslie away only out of great love. Knowing that Les is going to see Brad again, Laurie warns him not to bring the baby into their discussion, as Leslie will come back only she’s convinced he loves her, not for the babies sake. Leslie finds Brad disheveled and sloppy, and proceeds to straighten the apartment, stating that she can't respect him if he lets himself go. Realizing that neither Brad nor Les will make the first move, Laurie hurries things along by refusing to help Brad with his grooming, saying he should ask his wife. Then, having learned  that Brad offered Les the use of their piano, Laurie untunes the Brooks' piano forcing Leslie to accept his offer. By refusing to cater to his  blindness, Les manages to get Brad to stop wallowing in pity, and by the time Leslie’s Christmas braille message of her love and her need for him arrives, they are husband and wife again Lance takes Laurie on a business trip on New Year's Eve, and tells her, on board his plane, she won't be  won't be able to call him “Mr. All Talk and No action” after tonight. When Laurie protests that waited this long and will continue to wait until married, Lance delights her by instructing his pilot to land in Las Vegas, where they are married immediately.
    • Yeah, not sure why Jack and Jen didn’t rush to Marlena - or even Carrie - to offer their condolences. A few flashbacks would've been a nice touch too. Instead, we got a whole episode of them talking about Chad and Abby? Come on. On the bright side, I loved Anna’s scenes with Marlena and Carrie - sweet and heartfelt, felt like a real 80s throwback.
×
×
  • Create New...

Important Information

By using this site, you agree to our Terms of Use and Privacy Policy