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11 hours ago, Broderick said:

This show was a unique product, the vision of one person who generally knew exactly what he was doing.  Once that vision is gone (and heaven knows it's BEEN gone!), you're really just left with a mess.  Kay Alden could copy Bill Bell's style, but not his quality.  Jack Smith is a bumbling fool.  Lynn Marie Latham didn't know what Y&R was even supposed to be.  Maria Arena isn't a writer, and the writers she employed to do her job were frivolous and ill-informed. Sally Sussman could copy Bell's style, but was likely crippled by lack of planning and SONY's interference.  Josh Griffith is scared to take a chance and do anything unpredictable.  Charles Pratt is -- well, he shouldn't have been there.  Neither should Mal Young.  There's just evidently no one who can straighten out this mess.    

Brad Bell strikes me as someone who has run out of steam after 30 years on the job. WJB had a sustainable specific vision. But Brad Bell goes to show you that a long term specific vision doesn't always remain great.  

I do wonder if WJB we're still alive, wether the show would have still suffered the same major writing decline as all soaps have.

CBS Daytime remaining #1 -- only God knows how-- has blinded the exces and possibly the cast into believing they're still delivering good product. Nostalgia and loyalty alone are keeping all these soaps alive. 

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1 hour ago, ironlion said:

I do wonder if WJB we're still alive, wether the show would have still suffered the same major writing decline as all soaps have.

I wonder if Bill Bell's health issues started in the mid-1990s, as that overlaps w/ him turning the reigns at B&B over to Bradley, and Y&R going off track in the aftermath of OJ.

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15 minutes ago, kalbir said:

I wonder if Bill Bell's health issues started in the mid-1990s, as that overlaps w/ him turning the reigns at B&B over to Bradley, and Y&R going off track in the aftermath of OJ.

As I recall (and I'm certain someone will correct me if I am wrong), the history was that Bradley was a writer's intern at Y&R when he pitched the story of Lauren's stalker Shaun, who wound up burying her alive.  The summer story proved to be a ratings success, even though it was out of character for Y&R at the time.  Which is why when they developed B&B, they gave more responsibility to Bradley so that he could allow it to have its own style.

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For sure, Bill and Lee Philip Bell envisioned B&B as a legacy that could be handed down to their children, free from network or sponsor interference.  Did he turn over the reigns sooner than expected?  It's possible.

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8 hours ago, kalbir said:

I wonder if Bill Bell's health issues started in the mid-1990s, as that overlaps w/ him turning the reigns at B&B over to Bradley, and Y&R going off track in the aftermath of OJ.

I am fairly certain he passed from Alzheimers. From what I have read, symptoms most likely began around 94/95. Maybe he had minor things happen prior, but generally I think 85% of people pass within ten years of symptoms beginning. 

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16 hours ago, ironlion said:

Brad Bell strikes me as someone who has run out of steam after 30 years on the job. WJB had a sustainable specific vision. But Brad Bell goes to show you that a long term specific vision doesn't always remain great.  

I do wonder if WJB we're still alive, wether the show would have still suffered the same major writing decline as all soaps have.

CBS Daytime remaining #1 -- only God knows how-- has blinded the exces and possibly the cast into believing they're still delivering good product. Nostalgia and loyalty alone are keeping all these soaps alive. 

I know he would never do but I wish Brad Bell would just hand over the reins to someone more competent wit creativity i.e., Michele Val Jean and let him be the Executive Producer who is somewhat a figurehead of the show. 

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7 hours ago, kalbir said:

@BoldRestlessWere you trying to link to Kate Linder's interview on The Locher Room?

No... it's a clip of her looking at old clips similar to the videos that MTS, DD, CLB and others did.

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10 hours ago, BoldRestless said:

No... it's a clip of her looking at old clips similar to the videos that MTS, DD, CLB and others did.

 

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It seems a bit awkward to be celebrating Kate's 40 years on the show when she is not even onscreen.

The last time I remember seeing her was a scene with Sharon Xmas 2021. Has she even been on this year?

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27 minutes ago, Paul Raven said:

It seems a bit awkward to be celebrating Kate's 40 years on the show when she is not even onscreen.

The last time I remember seeing her was a scene with Sharon Xmas 2021. Has she even been on this year?

No she hasn’t at all, however:

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Kate Linder did mention a couple weeks ago while on the Lochner Room she does have a story on Y&R coming up that’s supposedly going to revisit Esther’s history but didn’t go into specific details. 

 

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Hopefully we'll get something good in June for Jess Walton's 35th anniversary, and the 40th anniversary of Eileen Davidson and Beth Maitland first episodes.

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1 hour ago, soapfan770 said:

No she hasn’t at all, however:

  Reveal hidden contents

 

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Hmm....The return of Tiny....Norman's revenge??

 

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