20 hours ago, DramatistDreamer said:

Uh, I meant photos of Forbes and Kettle together, lol.

Oddly enough, I couldn't find any pics of them together. 😂

8 hours ago, Vee said:

Why on Earth do the Wikipedia/SOC entries for Frannie and Sabrina say they went to Haiti together in 2010? I don't recall a single mention of either Haiti or Sabrina in Frannie's very brief appearance at the end of the show and I'm pretty sure someone's just writing fanfic again.

People just be writing whatever they want in Wikipedia at times, lol. Some of the entries that make it in that site are insane!

1 hour ago, amybrickwallace said:

Oddly enough, I couldn't find any pics of them together. 😂

A different time, I guess.

TBH, you won't really find photos of Finn Carter and Steven Weber together online either.

This is the closest you're likely to get, lol.

Gawd...Gregg Marx ..what a hunk! Lucky Finn!

46 minutes ago, DramatistDreamer said:

People just be writing whatever they want in Wikipedia at times, lol. Some of the entries that make it in that site are insane!

A different time, I guess.

TBH, you won't really find photos of Finn Carter and Steven Weber together online either.

This is the closest you're likely to get, lol.

Definitely a different time. I didn't even find pictures from events like the Daytime Emmys!

10 hours ago, Vee said:

Why on Earth do the Wikipedia/SOC entries for Frannie and Sabrina say they went to Haiti together in 2010? I don't recall a single mention of either Haiti or Sabrina in Frannie's very brief appearance at the end of the show and I'm pretty sure someone's just writing fanfic again.

Actually, I strangely remember this happening (my ability to store soap trivia is near savant level). I can't remember the exact year but I remember there had been some big disaster in Haiti in real life that was all over the news. It was either a hurricane or an earthquake or something. At that time, it was very briefly mentioned only once that Frannie and Sabrina had gone to Haiti from Montega to assist in the relief efforts. I think Bob and Kim were talking about it. Probably at Thanksgiving or Christmas when they explain the absence of family members.  It stood out so in my mind because it was so random. Frannie and Sabrina hadn't been mentioned in years. There was only that one mention of it. Maybe two mentions. But that was it. 

Actually, I looked at Haiti's natural disasters and they had a massive earthquake in January 2010 which killed up to 316,000 people so that was probably it since that's huge. I think that was it. They might have mentioned Frannie and Sabrina so randomly because Julianne Moore was planning on coming back that April for her guest appearance. They usually start mentioning an old character if they're planning on coming back. The timeline would be right. 

Edited October 5, 20214 yr by Bill Bauer

14 minutes ago, Bill Bauer said:

Actually, I strangely remember this happening (my ability to store soap trivia is near savant level). I can't remember the exact year but I remember there had been some big disaster in Haiti in real life that was all over the news. It was either a hurricane or an earthquake or something. At that time, it was very briefly mentioned only once that Frannie and Sabrina had gone to Haiti from Montega to assist in the relief efforts. I think Bob and Kim were talking about it. Probably at Thanksgiving or Christmas when they explain the absence of family members.  It stood out so in my mind because it was so random. Frannie and Sabrina hadn't been mentioned in years. There was only that one mention of it. Maybe two mentions. But that was it. 

Actually, I looked at Haiti's natural disasters and they had a massive earthquake in January 2010 which killed up to 316,000 people so that was probably it since that's huge. I think that was it. They might have mentioned Frannie and Sabrina so randomly because Julianne Moore was planning on coming back that April for her guest appearance. They usually start mentioning an old character if they're planning on coming back. The timeline would be right. 

I think Bob gives a speech in the last Thanksgiving episode the show did which mentions his kids - I don't remember if Haiti is mentioned there though. I do think they mentioned something about it before Frannie returned. 

14 hours ago, Vee said:

I do wonder if Marland had ever intended anything serious with Craig/Iva or Steve/Iva, or the Tad Channing/Betsy connection for that matter. I think the latter must've just been intended as passing relationship drama. I really, really like Lindsay Frost but it is hard to imagine what this casting shift must've been like from perky elfen early '80s Meg Ryan. You can't imagine Frost being steamrolled by Craig or Steve.

I think Steve/Iva would have gone further as a story, if Frank Runyeon hadn't had such a clash with them and been on his way out. The others I don't think were meant to be long-term. 

Frost plays Betsy in a softer/more passive manner in what is available of her 1984 and  early 1985 work. She gradually becomes tougher, and becomes friends with Craig, which viewers never would have accepted with Meg Ryan still  in the part. 

Wasn't ATWT off the air by September 2010? How would Dr. Bob have mentioned it in a Thanksgiving speech? Can someone fill me in? When would Frannie and Sabrina in Haiti have been mentioned?

I think they must mean Thanksgiving 2009 or something. But I'm pretty sure Frannie and Sabrina would've made it to Haiti and back by the following summer lol.

1 minute ago, DramatistDreamer said:

Wasn't ATWT off the air by September 2010? How would Dr. Bob have mentioned it in a Thanksgiving speech? Can someone fill me in? When would Frannie and Sabrina in Haiti have been mentioned?

Hey DD,

Yeah, I mentioned it was probably a Thanksgiving or Christmas episode because that's when they usually mentioned missing family members. However, since the Haitian earthquake was in January 2010, Julianne Moore returned in April 2010 and the show was off the air in September 2010, I think the Haiti mention was probably sometime in February or March (since ATWT taped in advance). If all the February and March 2010 episodes are up on YouTube, and you have the patience to go through them, you'll probably find the mention in there somewhere. I would just skip to all the Hughes scenes though. I'm sure it was Bob or Kim who mentioned it. Now, I'm not 100% sure of this so please don't get mad at me if you sift through all those episodes and it's not there. 😀 I'm currently going through the entire series but I'm only up to 1999 so it might take me a while to get there. But, when I do, and I hear the reference, I'll let you know. Although by the time I get there both you and I will have forgotten about this I'm sure.  

ATWT planned on Julianne Moore being Both Frannie & Sabrina during her 2010 but when they realized she could film for a few hours they changed it to just Frannie returning

I don't know where you got that from, but I do know that she allegedly had been willing to do at least a few more mins onscreen until allegedly a certain someone then wrote her into multiple shows and her management freaked.

Maybe it's me and my suspicious nature, but sometimes it feels as if some folks have a stake in vigorously protecting the P&G brand, as if it's their job.  What have they actually done to inspire such unflagging loyalty? They couldn't even drop a few seasons worth of classic episodes in decent digital visual quality.

 

2 hours ago, Bill Bauer said:

Hey DD,

Yeah, I mentioned it was probably a Thanksgiving or Christmas episode because that's when they usually mentioned missing family members. However, since the Haitian earthquake was in January 2010, Julianne Moore returned in April 2010 and the show was off the air in September 2010, I think the Haiti mention was probably sometime in February or March (since ATWT taped in advance). If all the February and March 2010 episodes are up on YouTube, and you have the patience to go through them, you'll probably find the mention in there somewhere. I would just skip to all the Hughes scenes though. I'm sure it was Bob or Kim who mentioned it. Now, I'm not 100% sure of this so please don't get mad at me if you sift through all those episodes and it's not there. 😀 I'm currently going through the entire series but I'm only up to 1999 so it might take me a while to get there. But, when I do, and I hear the reference, I'll let you know. Although by the time I get there both you and I will have forgotten about this I'm sure.  

Please don't take this the wrong way, I appreciate you taking the time to respond but I have to be honest, I'm not going to sift through that, as it's the era that I despise the most. That would be akin to torture for me. No biggie, I was only mildly curious anyway. Thanks, but no thanks.

4 hours ago, DRW50 said:

I think Steve/Iva would have gone further as a story, if Frank Runyeon hadn't had such a clash with them and been on his way out.

What was the deal with him? I read someplace where the fame went to his head and didn't learn until he went to SB, where he wasn't the star and his character was expendable. What happened at the end of his ATWT run?

9 minutes ago, amybrickwallace said:

What was the deal with him? I read someplace where the fame went to his head and didn't learn until he went to SB, where he wasn't the star and his character was expendable. What happened at the end of his ATWT run?

Runyeon wasn't happy that he wasn't the star of the show. I think Marland got sick of it and turned Steve to the dark side and he was involved in a drug smuggling story where he went to prison and thus off the show.

 

6 minutes ago, Soapsuds said:

Runyeon wasn't happy that he wasn't the star of the show. I think Marland got sick of it and turned Steve to the dark side and he was involved in a drug smuggling story where he went to prison and thus off the show.

That makes sense. Thanks.