9 hours ago, Brolden said:

 

I guess I always figured Caleb was younger because, when they arrived, he fell in with the "teen crowd", dating Lily, Pam and eventually Julie, whereas Ellie fell in with the "adults", dating Craig and then Kirk.

 

I wouldn't have called Lily, Pam or Julie "teens". They were young adults. I think Caleb had a pattern of being attracted to somewhat more impressionable females, while Ellie's type was an older, established man.

From what I understand, Mr. Peepers' wedding was like the equivalent of Joe and Rhoda's wedding.  It was a HUGE event that people stayed home to watch.

 

I had no idea she appeared on ATWT, though.  RIP.

It was the Stewart family (David and Betty) who changed Jimmy's name to Danny.

A few pages back we were talking about when Lisa and Barbara partnered for Fashions and when Barbara had Simply Barbara vs. Barbara Ryan Originals.  

 

I came across this episode from 1982 and Lisa answers the phone as 'Fashions Limited'.  It looks like Dee and Ariel worked there.  I'm not sure if Barbara was even involved in the boutique yet, she was too busy being involved in that convoluted story where she kept having visions of the man who would turn out to be Gunnar.  She does look beautiful here though.  Someone put a LOT of makeup on Ariel!

 

EDT:  Okay Barbara was involved, maybe she was partners with Lisa back then but she seems fairly removed from the day to day in this episode.  You have to excuse me, I was only in the 2nd grade when this episode came out so, I only have vague memories of some of these characters.

 

 

Edited August 13, 20187 yr by DramatistDreamer

On 8/11/2018 at 9:18 PM, juppiter said:

 

 

I think the Allison after JD was Marnie Schulenburg? She grew on me eventually, but I looooved Jessica Dunphy. She just reminded me of the kind of girl who would have befriended the gay kid and skipped class to smoke with him in high school.

 

I really enjoyed Dunphy too, she reminded me of a young Alison Sweeney. I know some hated her but her Alison was fun where as Schulenburg's Alison was pretty bleak. I'm surprised Dunphy never did anything else. 

Scott Holroyd deserved MUCH better.

From the episodes in 1982, I decided to look up the names of writing staff that were unfamiliar to me and came across a name-- Jean Rouverol.  Doing a quick search I see that she died just last year at the age of 100.

As an actress, she had just started her career as a screenwriter when she was blacklisted.  She had quite an interesting biography.

 

Has she been mentioned in any threads before?  She wrote a book called Writing for the Soaps.  I did a quick search on this site but her name didn't come up.  Since she wrote a book on soaps, perhaps someone here has read it?

I read Jean Rouverol's book three or four times in the 2000s. It's excellent! Obviously outdated now in terms of some of the specifics, but it's great. Totally worth picking up if you find a copy.

When I see the name Jean Rouverol, I immediately think of the near-Thanksgiving 1977 episode of GL from the DVD set. Her Wiki page says she left the show in 1976, but her name appears on the writers list immediately following the Dobsons.

16 hours ago, Michael said:

I read Jean Rouverol's book three or four times in the 2000s. It's excellent! Obviously outdated now in terms of some of the specifics, but it's great. Totally worth picking up if you find a copy.

 

Thanks, I'll see if I can find a copy!

On 8/13/2018 at 5:22 PM, DramatistDreamer said:

A few pages back we were talking about when Lisa and Barbara partnered for Fashions and when Barbara had Simply Barbara vs. Barbara Ryan Originals.  

 

I came across this episode from 1982 and Lisa answers the phone as 'Fashions Limited'.  It looks like Dee and Ariel worked there.  I'm not sure if Barbara was even involved in the boutique yet, she was too busy being involved in that convoluted story where she kept having visions of the man who would turn out to be Gunnar.  She does look beautiful here though.  Someone put a LOT of makeup on Ariel!

 

EDT:  Okay Barbara was involved, maybe she was partners with Lisa back then but she seems fairly removed from the day to day in this episode.  You have to excuse me, I was only in the 2nd grade when this episode came out so, I only have vague memories of some of these characters.

 

 

 

 

Why is everyone in shadows? Did P & G not pay the electric bill..Jeff is totally obscured off to the side.

10 hours ago, Mitch said:

Why is everyone in shadows? Did P & G not pay the electric bill..Jeff is totally obscured off to the side.

 

 I think they might have been trying to go for a dark and mysterious mood? Were they somehow trying to blend the lighting of Barbara's fantasy life with her real life environment?

14 hours ago, DramatistDreamer said:

 

 I think they might have been trying to go for a dark and mysterious mood? Were they somehow trying to blend the lighting of Barbara's fantasy life with her real life environment?

EVERYONE had shadows on their faces..Jeff got it the worst...it was like the light over his head went out.  For Bunim and the Dobs wanting to make the show "youthfull" it is incredibly slow, dark, and depressing...the scene with Dee and David, which should have been heartfelt came off an slow and ponderous...and then there is no follow up in the scenes at Fashion...(at least have Lisa say, "What's wrong" and when she finds out the Stewarts are divorcing have a bit of a smirk...(an ode to Elle and Lisa's fued.)  The scene of Annie and Jeff are supposed to be romantic comedy I think but it just is flat...

 

I do like the Lisa/Ariel scene...its like a Designing Women scene

Edited August 18, 20187 yr by Mitch

22 minutes ago, Mitch said:

the scene with Dee and David, which should have been heartfelt came off an slow and ponderous

I was wondering if David was being played as having prodromal symptoms of his stroke because he cannot seem to recall his lines.

 

Why was Fashions having such a boost in their sales?  I laughed when Lisa answers the phone call from Vermont and asks if they want to pay by cash.  Who knew Fashions Lmt was the prototype for Fashion Nova?

18 minutes ago, j swift said:

I was wondering if David was being played as having prodromal symptoms of his stroke because he cannot seem to recall his lines.

 

Why was Fashions having such a boost in their sales?  I laughed when Lisa answers the phone call from Vermont and asks if they want to pay by cash.  Who knew Fashions Lmt was the prototype for Fashion Nova?

 

Catalog sales, can you believe it??

I believe Dee mentioned this to Barbara when they met in this episode.  I guess they all put together a fancy photo spread done in a layout in a catalog and distributed to buyers and maybe the well-heeled.  Perahaps Lisa and Dee and Ariel were heralding the achievement of reaching customers well beyond Oakdale.

 

Come to think of it, it would have been interesting if Fashions and BRO did something to this effect with the Internet in the late 90s/early '00s.  Were there any scenes or storylines that dealt with the emergence of technology and its effect on businesses like Barbara's or Lisa's?  Or even Lucinda's? 

(I remember seeing Craig learning how to use a computer when he started working for Lucinda, that was around 1984 and it struck me as probably one of the earliest uses of a computer that I'd seen on a daytime soap).