On 6/2/2017 at 9:59 AM, Mitch said:

 

 

Some of his stuff was good and natural...like Nancy asking where the serving spoon was and I liked that people actually used their kitchens and made dinner (in today's soaps its as if no one does anything "normal") and worried about who was going to watch their kids...(in between kidnappings and murder trials..) but when it came down to people having a conversation that moved plot along it was stiff and unnatural and contrary to what someone posted above...everyone sounded the same...like they just stepped out of a touchy feeling group therapy session ("honesty..feelings) GL at the time ..while their plots were sloppier, made their characters sound like real people talking..and sometimes, even the "good" people didn't like other "good" people and made bitchy gossip about them...(Marland's characters were too earnest to do that...)

 

 

Like others mentioned...pam long and Marland would have worked well as co head writers.  He was organized, and disciplined with plot points and character....and she knew how to make each character have their own voice and was good at the emotional writing.

 

She did well with the Reardons and expanded on the Lewis family on GL (Marland's creations)...so I think she could have written the Snyder's as well...and even maybe the Hughes family too.  

 

 

3 hours ago, Soaplovers said:

 

 

Like others mentioned...pam long and Marland would have worked well as co head writers.  He was organized, and disciplined with plot points and character....and she knew how to make each character have their own voice and was good at the emotional writing.

 

She did well with the Reardons and expanded on the Lewis family on GL (Marland's creations)...so I think she could have written the Snyder's as well...and even maybe the Hughes family too.  

 

 

Makes you wonder why they didn't hire Long when Marland died or convince Claire Labine

Edited June 6, 20178 yr by cassadine1991

 

On 6/6/2017 at 5:31 PM, cassadine1991 said:

Makes you wonder why they didn't hire Long when Marland died or convince Claire Labine

 

I feel like Pam Long is one of those writers who is only a good fit for one soap (GL).  Her stints on Santa Barbara and One Life to Live were less than impressive.

 

I actually think they should have brought over someone like Nancy Curlee or even Millee Taggart.

1 hour ago, juniorz1 said:

 

I feel like Pam Long is one of those writers who is only a good fit for one soap (GL).  Her stints on Santa Barbara and One Life to Live were less than impressive.

 

I actually think they should have brought over someone like Nancy Curlee or even Millee Taggart.

Wasn't Taggart already a HW at ATWT?

 

 

I got a question what year was Oakdale Latin first mentioned or was it always the name of the high school in Oakdale?

This might seem like a silly questions but why do schools call themselves Latin instead of high school, middle, junior, elementary...?

3 hours ago, Nothin'ButAttitude said:

This might seem like a silly questions but why do schools call themselves Latin instead of high school, middle, junior, elementary...?

I have no idea, my guess the private school wants to sound ethnic or different

15 hours ago, juniorz1 said:

 

I feel like Pam Long is one of those writers who is only a good fit for one soap (GL).  Her stints on Santa Barbara and One Life to Live were less than impressive.

 

I actually think they should have brought over someone like Nancy Curlee or even Millee Taggart.

I disagree, I think Long was a terrible fit for both SB and OLTL as neither one of them were "family" shows per se.. the first two years of her GL term were great as the Bauers were the center with the other families having their turn..it wasn,t until TPTB interfered that it came apart...and her second tenure on GL she got to straighten some of that out. I think she would have respected the Hughes and would have been really good with Nancy (I thought her writing of Bert was great..matriarch of SF but human and fallible too.) I just would fear she would bring Zimmer ...(imagine Zimmer as a Diana McColl recast....her and Fulton together on screen....either great or diva disaster....)  Co head writing with Curlee would have been great...( I always loved Curlees quote that a poster here uses but she also ammended for soaps in general..."You can scare the hell out of the viewer, throw anything you want at them, as long as they can run out of that dark backyard, run up the porch steps and bang through the screen door and Nancy Hughes is in the kitchen baking cookies."

1 hour ago, Mitch said:

I disagree, I think Long was a terrible fit for both SB and OLTL as neither one of them were "family" shows per se.. the first two years of her GL term were great as the Bauers were the center with the other families having their turn..it wasn,t until TPTB interfered that it came apart...and her second tenure on GL she got to straighten some of that out. I think she would have respected the Hughes and would have been really good with Nancy (I thought her writing of Bert was great..matriarch of SF but human and fallible too.) I just would fear she would bring Zimmer ...(imagine Zimmer as a Diana McColl recast....her and Fulton together on screen....either great or diva disaster....)  Co head writing with Curlee would have been great...( I always loved Curlees quote that a poster here uses but she also ammended for soaps in general..."You can scare the hell out of the viewer, throw anything you want at them, as long as they can run out of that dark backyard, run up the porch steps and bang through the screen door and Nancy Hughes is in the kitchen baking cookies."

 

I still think Pam Long would have been a good replacement for Marland.  The Snyder's and hughes families would have been up her alley..and I think she would have had a good take on Lucinda.

 

Her Texas and GL were good...and I've heard her brief stint closing out SFT was decent.  

 

What did everyone think of Lorraine Broderick?  She had potential, but according to Eileen Fulton...all of her ideas were over ruled..and she was the last writer to feature Lisa (other then the brief 40 and 50 year celebration of her being on the show).

What year was this?

 

Also found when Aaron first slept with Alison after they were dumped by Lucy and Chris

 

When the walls close in on Ali/Aaron

 

Lucy finding out

 

 

Another thing I noticed was how insecure Molly became when it came to Rose.

That Carly/Barb/Craig scene is from 2001, sometime between the BabsCraig marriage in May, and when she was caught in the bomb blast in June. My guess puts it closer to June and right before the explosion.

 

Broderick's work was up and down. She introduced Julia Lindsey, which is enough to put her name at the top of list to burn in hell. But she also wrote some of the most romantic Carjack stuff, which probably makes her schizophrenic. 

OMG! I totally forgot that Kim was involved in a car bomb incident. Damn. Did the writer's hate Kim that year? Were they trying to kill her off? B/c between this and the church fire, Kim stayed in peril. At least Kathy Hays got great material.

 

 

 

I absolutely loved Jack's amnesia SL.

 

2004 was the year I got HOOKED on ATWT.  16 year old me loved the Doc Reese SL, Six Keys to the Kingdom Contest. 

 

And...is Hannah a pre Grey's Anatomy Sara Ramirez?

 

 

 

9 hours ago, WTGH said:

 

 

I absolutely loved Jack's amnesia SL.

 

2004 was the year I got HOOKED on ATWT.  16 year old me loved the Doc Reese SL, Six Keys to the Kingdom Contest. 

 

And...is Hannah a pre Grey's Anatomy Sara Ramirez?

 

 

 

 

 

I believe you are correct about Sara Ramirez - she was definitely already in the Broadway world at that point (I think even Spamalot had happened by then?) so she was in NYC.

 

I love this message board because you see all the different eras in which people get hooked.  I got hooked in Feb of 2000 a few months before Hogan Sheffer arrived. Once he started writing, I became obsessed with ATWT and loved his entire regime up until 2004 when I thought he lost his way.  I'm not a big fan of 2004-2008 ATWT but love that it was when you became hooked and that you love it. I HATED the Jack amnesia SL and quit watching the show at that point other than every once in a while when I'd check in.

 

It just goes to show that ATWT was always, ALWAYS a cut above many other soaps. We all have "our" time of the show. For all the Sheffer lovers, we hear "He ruined the show! It's not like it was in the 80's"  For all the Marland fans, they hear "He ruined the show! It's not like it was in the 70's!" and so on.  But through it all, Oakdale (and Luther's Corners and Milltown) keeps turning.......

On 6/8/2017 at 11:19 AM, Soaplovers said:

 

I still think Pam Long would have been a good replacement for Marland.  The Snyder's and hughes families would have been up her alley..and I think she would have had a good take on Lucinda.

 

Her Texas and GL were good...and I've heard her brief stint closing out SFT was decent.  

 

What did everyone think of Lorraine Broderick?  She had potential, but according to Eileen Fulton...all of her ideas were over ruled..and she was the last writer to feature Lisa (other then the brief 40 and 50 year celebration of her being on the show).

I didnt think about Long and Lucinda! While Lucinda was polar opposite of Bev/Alex( one was quiet, but could cut you to pieces with a stare..the other was flamboyant and could cut you to pieces with her zingers) they both were powerful, conflicted women who were not the cartoon soap opera rich bitch they turned MarjAlex into.