As The World Turns Discussion Thread

[DRW50]

Thanks for finding that. Looks like this was one of the missing 1987 episodes. Even if not much happened, good to see another moment of that era - it's also a good reminder of how you don't need OTT Friday cliffhangers. 

 

Tom's letter to Sabrina was touching (I can't imagine Scott Holmes saying that stuff for some reason). It's too bad they were never close, because of what she did to Frannie. There's an underlying sadness in Sabrina's story because everyone wanted her to have the big happy family but it just wasn't mean to be.

 

The Craig harem always fascinates me - as much as I did appreciate the friendship between Betsy and Craig, referring to themselves as brother and sister after their history together was odd, and him kissing her on the mouth was even odder. No wonder Steve hated him...

 

I love that porno music playing as the intro for Judith Clayton's show. Good to hear Jill Larson's voice too. And John going around Oakdale stirring the pot against Lucinda - Larry Bryggman does so much with all those stolen glances. 

 

Such a soulful performance from Lisa Brown, as ever. Poor Iva...

 

Holden as insufferable as ever, and the Lily stuff is as silly to me as it often is. The whole idea of her throwing Dusty a birthday party baffles me. Marland sure loved his birthday parties though. 

Edited February 7, 2020 by DRW50

[Soaplovers]

I do recall Sabrina, when she was with Seth,  was always at the Snyder farm.  What did end up breaking up Sabrina and Seth?

 

[DRW50]

 

I think she secretly paid for his writing to be published. He hit the roof. She left town with her old love, Colin (I think).

 

I still wish sometimes they'd tried a gay story with him as I get those vibes from him here and there...but they were never doing that in 1987. They wouldn't even now.

 

I thought Steve Bassett brought so much to the role, even what wasn't really on paper at times. 

[Khan]

 

I did, too.  But, I always chalked it up to the fact that Marland clearly based Seth on himself.

[DRW50]

 

 I didn't know that until recent years. When I did, it made sense.

[DRW50]

The February 4, 1993 episode has been uploaded - this one has been unavailable, aside from the intro. 

 

It's always kind of hard for me to watch this period as it's right before we lost Michael David Morrison, Doug Marland, and the stories are heavy and thin all at once, but still, worth watching to see my old friends again, and the divine Mary Kay Adams.

 

(I still don't like that depressing opening though)

 

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[EllenP]

I’ve been thinking about Marj Dusay’s death and how I wish we had recent updates from our ATWT people like Eileen Fulton, Don Hastings, Marie Masters, and Liz Hubbard. I know that we have had a Kathy Hays update in the last year when she was honored by her Illinois hometown, to which she recently moved back, and there were several pictures from the event. I just wish we could hear from the others, especially divine Ms. Eileen!

[DramatistDreamer]

If Procter & Gamble actually had a decent social media footprint, or at least a YouTube page for their entertainment/production company, they could easily keep up with the most senior veteran soap stars from some of their shows. Sadly, there aren't a whole lot left, at this point. 

There are many people who voluntarily do blogs and Twitter, even FB pages, those people could easily be doing the same thing for an official page/YouTube channel.  Many would volunteer but P&G could throw some freebies their way a few times a year via downloadable coupons (so many companies already do coupon giveaways for no particular reason as it is).

If those pioneer and senior veteran soap stars really felt as though people were genuinely interested in hearing from them, I think they'd really make themselves available to do a podcast interview here and there, but no space has been made for them to do this on a big platform on a consistent basis.  Many of the blogs have either faded or were very limited to begin with.

 

 

[Khan]

 

In the sixth grade, I wrote my very first research paper on (believe it or not) Irna Phillips.  As part of my research on Irna and her shows, I came across Marland's photo.  Let's just say my gaydar pinged on the man before I even knew what gaydar was. 

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[Soapsuds]

Holden should've been the gay one. Seth was my least favorite Snyder brother. Always enjoyed the Holden and Caleb rivalry.

[Khan]

 

Or, the hunky stableboy Lucinda AND Lily had fun with. 

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[Soapsuds]

Fixed

[DRW50]

 

Holden would have worked as (not to stereotype) a bisexual schemer who was dead behind the eyes (as JH was pretty dead-eyed in those years anyway - he only warmed up as he got older) and would do anyone for power. 

[DramatistDreamer]

 

Something tells me, if given the opportunity, Marland would have happily written that story.

[DRW50]

 

I would have loved seeing it. 

 

I know the original plans were for Holden to be darker until the show responded to JH's chemistry with Martha. I wonder how Marland did feel about that because he tried repeatedly to bring in a darker edge for Holden.