May 23, 20169 yr Member I always thought the 80s theme was overrated as hell. They went from the grand, majestic, sweeping 70s theme to that? The grand, majestic, sweeping theme doesn't really fit with what ATWT had become. It's jarringly out of place with the era of Stenbeck and Margo and the many flop Dobson characters who invaded Oakdale. To me the '80s theme fits that period well, and also works well for Marland's run.
May 23, 20169 yr Member I agree with you @DRW50, the 80s them was suitable to the times and it had its charms (and I happened to be quite fond of the 80s theme). The 70s theme was sweeping and majestic, but as the time changed, it might have seemed a bit too grandiose for everyday viewing- (I couldn't imagine hearing the 70s theme when ATWT's budget started to nosedive and longtime characters disappeared or became unrecognizable) which is why I suggested that it be used for special occasions like an Anniversary show. Given that TPTB at ATWT knew when their last season was approaching, it would've been nice to do a variation of the various ATWT, I mean, even if they were on a tight budget, if someone on You Tube can do it, why couldn't they? I just think that by the show's last decade, TPTB could truly care less about adding special touches like that. Edited May 23, 20169 yr by DramatistDreamer
May 24, 20169 yr Member I do love the 80s theme, but I guess because I wasn't around watching the show when it was used, I don't have the fondness for it that others do. I guess my main thing is that the music coupled with the visuals gave the show a very sci-fi look.I think they could have updated while still keeping some of the bigness of the previous music. The original version of "My Guiding Light" over on GL was majestic without being overblown, and they kinda brought back some of the grandness with the toilet flush theme.
May 25, 20169 yr Member I agree with you @DRW50, the 80s them was suitable to the times and it had its charms (and I happened to be quite fond of the 80s theme). The 70s theme was sweeping and majestic, but as the time changed, it might have seemed a bit too grandiose for everyday viewing- (I couldn't imagine hearing the 70s theme when ATWT's budget started to nosedive and longtime characters disappeared or became unrecognizable) which is why I suggested that it be used for special occasions like an Anniversary show. Given that TPTB at ATWT knew when their last season was approaching, it would've been nice to do a variation of the various ATWT, I mean, even if they were on a tight budget, if someone on You Tube can do it, why couldn't they? I just think that by the show's last decade, TPTB could truly care less about adding special touches like that. When I think of ATWT, the *real* ATWT, I always think of the original grand, sweeping theme. TIIC for the last decade of the show simply did not understand its legacy, did not care about preserving it, and/or were too incompetent to manage the series well. Katie mourning for Nancy while Penny, Don, and Ellen were MIA says it all, alas.
May 26, 20169 yr Member I agree with you @DRW50, the 80s them was suitable to the times and it had its charms (and I happened to be quite fond of the 80s theme). The 70s theme was sweeping and majestic, but as the time changed, it might have seemed a bit too grandiose for everyday viewing- (I couldn't imagine hearing the 70s theme when ATWT's budget started to nosedive and longtime characters disappeared or became unrecognizable) which is why I suggested that it be used for special occasions like an Anniversary show. Given that TPTB at ATWT knew when their last season was approaching, it would've been nice to do a variation of the various ATWT, I mean, even if they were on a tight budget, if someone on You Tube can do it, why couldn't they? I just think that by the show's last decade, TPTB could truly care less about adding special touches like that. When I think of ATWT, the *real* ATWT, I always think of the original grand, sweeping theme. TIIC for the last decade of the show simply did not understand its legacy, did not care about preserving it, and/or were too incompetent to manage the series well. Katie mourning for Nancy while Penny, Don, and Ellen were MIA says it all, alas. You don't know how much I've wished I could wave a magic wand and flush most of the stories from the show's last decade and re-write a whole new set of stories! TIIC then didn't seem to realize that you didn't need an exhoribant budget to write a good show, you needed talent, creativity, some imagination and a healthy respect for you characters and fidelity to the characters' histories.
May 28, 20169 yr Member Just looking at a Cleveland TV listing for Thannksgiving Thursday Nov 28 1957 and the CBS affiliate WJW has ATWT on delay at 5pm! I wonder if that's the latest it was ever shown? A lot of viewers might be seeing it for the first time...
May 29, 20169 yr Member Yes, Lucinda was a snake. I'm not sure why she seemed to want to ruin Steve, not even her then esteemed son-in-law Tonio could change her mind. Babs was quite busy making mischief for for several people in town. I do appreciate that eventually Bab's schemes started to come undone one by one and she was squeezed by Tad Channing all through the summer. It would take longer for Lucinda's deceptions to be revealed. I do wish that the episode where Steve realizes Tonio's hand in his personal undoing but it's nowhere to be found online. There is that interesting scene where Barbara's both Tonio and Duncan show up at Fashion's and Tad Channing, snickering in the background, wonders what it is that Barbara does that has men beating a path to her door and proposes when he's finished blackmailing her that they have an affair! Larry Pine's Channing was really a creepy letch!
May 29, 20169 yr Member We'll I'm bouncing all over the place with '86 episodes but I am enjoying it all.
May 30, 20169 yr Member '86 was such a fun year, even Colleen McDermott's unfortunate acting couldn't spoil how good that year was. Lust, love, murder, mayhem, humor, slapstick, pathos, sadness, joy, deception, revenge, awakenings- it was all there.
May 30, 20169 yr Member Actor Marco St. John, who was one final actors cast in the role of Dr. Paul Stewart (possibly the next to the last) will be on the remake of Roots playing Gambler #2 this week.
May 30, 20169 yr Member I'm watching Day 2 of the Death of Chris Hughes and two things I've observed: Don and Mary Hughes named their baby girl Christina Nancy. Did an older Christina Nancy ever make an appearance in Oakdale? Also, there is a scene in New Mexico where Meg talks to Rosa about Dusty returning to Oakdale with her and Rosa taunts Meg about how she used her feminine wiles to trick Dusty but she'll soon run out of ways to keep doing this and she mutters something in Spanish, which Meg doesn't understand and asks Rosa what she said to which Rosa guffaws but doesn't answer. Later, there is this hilarious dream sequence where Meg fantasizes about being married to a Harvard grad Dusty and having his baby and Rosa, who is their maid while dusting the wine glasses as Meg and John toast to Meg being the right woman for Dusty, again, Rosa says something sharply in Spanish and again Meg briefly asks her what she said before brushing it off. The first time I didn't pay attention to what Rosa said but the last time I saw it, I wondered what Rosa said and this time, I actually listened to it and I guessed that she was probably calling Meg a tramp but since I know some reasonable amount of Spanish, I really rewound it and listened carefully so that I could actually hear what Rosa was saying and discovered that she was calling Meg a mujerzuela barata, which is basically a cheap tramp. I just found it hilarious that even in Meg's fantasy, Rosa was still insulting her.
May 30, 20169 yr Member I think Ryder was the only child of Don/Mary to appear on ATWT as an adult. I think after he was written off, they practically ignored Nancy's other 2 kids (Don & Penny), and their offspring with the exception of them bringing Penny back for Christmas in '00. I still get pissed at how this show was not over-populated with a newer generation of Hughes in its last years. They should've been alongside Casey and Chris driving story.
June 1, 20169 yr Member Tad Channing finds out that Lily is really Iva's daughter. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n7gcUrStVrk Edited June 1, 20169 yr by Soapsuds
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