Anyone watch these shows? I absolutely love them. Ive watched NJ and Atlanta and now they are airing NY. Couldnt get into the Orange County. Too many blondes and fake boobs. Anyone else watching the current season of NY. Lots of drama. My favorites are Bethany and Kelly. I also like Jill although she bugs me. Alex does nothing for me and I cant stand Ramona and LuAnn

Interesting. Bravo did put RHONY behind RHOA this past Sunday for sampling, and it only managed around 1 million viewers out of an almost 4 million viewer lead-in.

http://tvbythenumbers.zap2it.com/2014/04/01/sunday-cable-ratings-the-walking-dead-wins-night-talking-dead-real-housewives-of-atlanta-shameless-naked-and-afraid-more/249656/

They did that with absolutely no promotion. I'd say that is good considering. Regardless the show has an audience and it's holding it and slightly building after 4 episodes. It's not the end of the world IMO.

Kudos to that girl for making the right decision! Lol so much drama....that was hilarious

According to new housewife LIzzie's twitter, she isn't debuting on RHOC until the 3rd episode. I certainly hope that the other new housewife Shannon debuts before then or else the first two episodes are going to be pretty boring with just three housewives.

Yes there was a point where only the three returning girls were filming. They went to Hawaii together when Heather did a guest role on Hawaii Five O

They were planning on getting rid of Ika anyways with no notice, so I was glad when she won the competition and took that money. On feeds, they were whining for hours. They were so pissed at Ika that night, the entire house went to bed early with the exception of her and Adel; meanwhile, Ika and Adel stayed up all night laughing and strategizing about who Adel should target after she leaves. BBCAN was sad last week (because Ika was being backdoored) but it was so good when she rubbed that money in her face. She made being a leper in a group so cool. They'd avoid her like she was the plague. Seriously.

I loved how they were seething with rage as she shredded their letters. LMFAO!

But that’s Brandi’s problem, not Lisa’s. As mentioned, Lisa has known Scheanna before she even knew Brandi. She is her employee and is Pandora’s friend, whom I believe she also does some work for. Brandi says she doesn’t want Lisa to fire her but the only way that she can completely write her off would be to do that. She’s not only Lisa’s employee, but she is now an employee of Bravo. Lisa has to interact with her and that involves having a more intimate relationship than most employers would have. Lisa is involved and has a relationship with ALL the VR cast members and that’s bc they are doing a tv show together. She’s stressed that several times during this reunion.

Are they friends? Scheanna is an employee and via the friendship with Pandora is an acquantice. Brandi is putting her on the same level, and that not the case. I doubt Lisa is calling Scheanna early in the morning to have long conversations or hanging out together as girlfriends. Their time outside of filming is probably limited, whereas Lisa and Brandi had a real relationship that extended off camera. Brandi is being super paranoid and jealous.

Now Lisa may have been wrong for not warning Brandi that time when Scheanna was going to be serving at the party but its getting to the point that its real childish. We’ve seen Lisa hide Scheanna away and scurry her off bc she was scared of how Brandi would feel. I thought the point of the sitdown 2 years ago would be so that they could move on and that this wouldn’t keep being such a recurring issue bc they are in the same circle. I don’t think Lisa is in the wrong for being around Scheanna. It is what it is and if Brandi feels she cant handle it, then she needs to do what is best for her and just stop being around Lisa, but she knew the situation when she came into it, so these tears now fall on deaf ears.

Lisa clearly is closer with Scheena than most of the VPR cast. She has admitted to hating Kristen so being on the show is irrelevant. Brandi has said she doesn't expect her to be fired and I believe that. But I think that for years Lisa downplayed the nature of her relationship with Scheena and it's come out that they were closer than she let on. It doesn't make them besties, but it's clearly more than Lisa out out there. Be it because she likes her or she's suddenly pandoraa best friend whatever.

The fact that Lisa did keep them seperated even after the sit down talk IMO is a perfect example of Lisa knowing that that convo was utter bullshit just to launch VPR. Brandi may be being overly paranoid, but when you think someone has one type of relationship with a person and then it turns out they have another, it's cause for question IMO.

It's kind of like Santa Clause with this. Some think Santa brings them gifts on his flying sled, most people know Santa does not exist.The point of that sit-down was to launch Lisa's show with a bang. The point was not to magically make Brandi cool with one of the f--k buddies of the father of her children. One minute we're blaming production for Lisa bringing Scheana to all taped events where Brandi is (despite Lisa staffing dozens of employees), the next minute it's Lisa doing her best to make peace.

Lisa likes Scheana, possibly a lot - as I think Lisa's daughter and Scheana are besties. Brandi's having a tough time processing what that has meant concerning her relationship with Lisa. She also felt Lisa turned her back on her when the going got tough (read: when Brandi got real messy). Brandi's been immature - and a bit OTT (friends influence friends about people they don't like - it's not manipulation. It's normal!) - but I don't think either of those aforementioned reflections or observations is anywhere near delusional. Lisa also has valid points - now and during the season. Brandi was treating her like the mother she hated for a while and Brandi's been lashing out at her since.

It is what it is. I do hope they can work through it and one day be friends again but I'm also okay if that doesn't happen. I'm sure they'll both be okay if that doesn't happen, as well. It's just all fresh right now. You can't really count anything out. Kim and Brandi are probably closer than any non-related people on that cast right now. Strange things do happen.

Exactly.

Interesting. Bravo did put RHONY behind RHOA this past Sunday for sampling, and it only managed around 1 million viewers out of an almost 4 million viewer lead-in.

http://tvbythenumbers.zap2it.com/2014/04/01/sunday-cable-ratings-the-walking-dead-wins-night-talking-dead-real-housewives-of-atlanta-shameless-naked-and-afraid-more/249656/

Yeah a like fifth viewing rerun, with no promotion. I doubt they are even looking at that rating.

Ika did get evicted after that. This reminds me of why I hate BB, it can be too damn addictive. Hopefully it's a newbie season in the US so I don't get sucked back in.

I hate BBCAN this season b/c the first four out the house, with the exception of Adel, who is still there, the interesting characters (Anick, Kyle, Paul, and Ika) were voted out back to back. Now we're left with Adel and the rest of the cast is boring. Sabrina is OK but she's aggravating and deluded like Danielle Murphee s14.

I loved how they were seething with rage as she shredded their letters. LMFAO!

IKR. But the feeds for the remaining of the week that Ika was there was too funny. When she walked into a room, they'd clear out, and she'd laugh about it, saying "I'm a boss."

Part 3 of the reunion was definitely the best one! I love Ken so much. Love how he apologized for calling Yolanduh stupid but that's it. She may think her [!@#$%^&*] smells lemon fresh but the Vanderpump-Todd's could clearly give a flying [!@#$%^&*] about her. Andy continues to be a mess of a host. He let Kyle talk over and shout at Lisa, allowed Yolanda to railroad Joyce, allowed Yolanda to keep telling Carlton to stay out of it all while interjecting her own sour lemon opinions in every conversation, was always interpreting what others were saying to Lisa and trying to make her see their side while doing nothing on Lisa's behalf. He's terrible. Bloody awful.

I hope Kim's toast is the last we'll ever have to see and hear from her. The rest can stay.

I completely disagree about Andy. I think he makes the reunions.

He was just happy Queen Yolabda was shutting down irrelevant 1 and 2 for him lol.

Perfect episode with balance if drama, fun and story of NYC.

It was great to see Carole, Kristen and Heather have some girl time. Get that hot young suffer Carole!

Sonja's "borrowed" house. Yes! The shade from production. It's so sad seeing Sonja trying to act as if life is super when we all know it's not. Her performance was sad. I like her, I do, and it's interesting to see her walk that line between holding it together and bring one step from falling apart. Maybe I'm to hard on her. She looks DAMN good though.

Oh hi Harry. AVIVA! I love this bitch. Luann! Yessss. I already love to hate Amanda so much - of course she's into Harry. Heather gave Aviva that icy shoulder with a smile on her face. She's flawless. Aviva recruiting Luann in her bloodbath against Carole and leaving out all the details lol. The cape thing is hilarious because she was clearly joking and the glasses thing I mean Aviva said she was copying her lol. And for a not a girls girl, Carole sure does get along with far more women than Aviva. I'm not into young guys but Sonja's main make assistant has it going on. So does Ben.

Amanda >>>>>>>>>>> Aviva, as a villain.

Dying at Sonja picking up on the hot foreign dude. Get it girl.

I seriously love Kristen. What a great addition. This dinner with her and Aviva is so awkward.

Josh has a great style.

Sonja is so jealous of Amanda. I love it.

Luann doesn't like Carole because Carole doesn't kiss her ass. I liked Carole attempting to apologize. Of course Aviva has to interrupt because she needs Luann to hate Carole.

Aviva recalls situations that happen way off.

I love how unamused Kristen is. And here comes heather! Carole! Amanda! Yes!!

Heather is OWNING Aviva. It's glorious.

Luann is so pressed.

Heather vs Amanda!

I wouldn't have apologized to Yolanda. She didn't deserve it and frankly is full of SH*T.

I hate this lady so much. Two faced people like her are just beyond pathetic.

Part 3 was def the strongest part of the reunion but it wasn't much better. Overall it was a weak reunion that capped off a weak season. Aside from Joyce, Lisa, Kyle, and Brandi I don't see any reason for the other ladies to be back.

Edited April 2, 201411 yr by ThePrinceOfSunspear

Seriously, WTF did Cynthia do to herself? It looks like she took a detour and did a talking head for RuPaul's Drag Race

I completely disagree about Andy. I think he makes the reunions.

He was just happy Queen Yolabda was shutting down irrelevant 1 and 2 for him lol.

Funny I don't recall her shutting Kim and herself down. Must've missed it.

Edited April 2, 201411 yr by MrPrezident

As Hilary Clinton once said some people operate in an "evidence free zone". Yolanda overtalking Joyce, Lisa, Carlton in order to let Kyle and Brandi have there way isn't shutting anyone down.

Its just simply more rudeness from the Queen of Hypocrisy. She's an absolute idiot. 3/4 of her statements were utter bs and an attempt to make herself or Brandi look better. She literally tried so hard to make Joyce look bad in that last part of the reunion and no one (not even Andy) laughed at her pathetic attempts.

Speaking of Mr. Cohen I think its obvious that he feels very threatened by Lisa. He knows Lisa is practically the main draw of this show now. Without Camille, Adrienne, or hot mess Taylor there, Beverly Hills has lost a lot of the cha ching and glamour that originally launched the series. No one is tuning in to see Kingsley .No one is tuning in to see Yolanda and her lemons. Not a single person is interested in seeing Brandi expose her coouchie crack one more time on national television or hurl the f bomb at yet another unsuspecting housewife.

Will BH be cancelled without Lisa? Probably not but it would def lose the majority of viewers including me. Thats why Andy was going so hard on her and to me it was very obvious and pretty disrespectful of him.

Ken's a big softie at the core and its so obvious....he and Lisa will prob forgive Brandi but they're way better people than I am. I for one could not forget the ish she concocted with The Idiot for a second.

RHOBH

"I held myself accountable" - Kyle.

Talk about a howler. Kyle is the eternal victim, whining and moaning and bitching and sniping away. She churns up old crap like a tractor tills soil. She couldn't stand that Lisa actually apologized for the joke she made when Portia was in the room.

"She's not asking you to fire her." - Andy.

He is now a crap host. He has lost any perspective on these shows and it's not limited to BH. I really like Andy and respect the work he has done with Bravo...but he is absolutely lost hosting the reunions now. He's Icharus and flying too high.

"Nothing." - Lisa

Oh Lisa, one word said it all about her feelings about Kyle and, by extension, most of these women. I do think she and Ken will crumble when it comes to Brandi, and that's a shame because she is a horrendous liability. But, she's human. Sigh.

"I feel like I'm being cheated on again with the same woman." - Brandi

What a nutjob. She really needs to get over the fact that her C List actor ex-husband left her. Her "but I don't want back in" in reaction to Ken icing her out...bahaha...as she wails with "You know I love you!" and "I need someone to stay!"...she's a mess. An absolute mess. I hope she gets her medications sorted out and realizes mixing antidepressants and alcohol is not a wise choice.

"You are just trash." - Carlton

She landed one slam. And bless her, she landed it on Kyle who looked so angry. I won't be at all surprised if Carlton doesn't return, she was a non-factor in this season.

"I met some people I was sad to discover were backstabbers." - Joyce

Yes...true...welcome to the world of reality TV Joyce.

"Andy...I just had another grrrreat year." - Kim

Good lord...talk about irrelevant. If Kim returns I think I'll be watching RHOBH very differently...fast forwarding through anything and everything Kim related. She has NO storyline. None.

"David is at his job." - Yolanda

Nothing said more about a marriage than that statement. David is never going to be involved in this show and how it cheapens his brand. Yolanda is full of sh*t about Ken "grabbing her"...a lie. And what she said about Ken getting into the conversations over and over again, take a seat, hypocrite.

"Well I only apologized for what I said, the stupid comment." - Ken

*snap* and with that...we end the worst season of The Real Housewives of Beverly Hills. They'd better realize how terrible this season was and look to the RHOVancouver and the RHOMelbourne to see how glamorous, frothy, delicious franchises should be done.

Edited April 2, 201411 yr by DaytimeFan

I agree Wendy Williams would make a better host for these reunions, heck Viveca A Fox was a host for a reunion on the Style network and she was pretty good as well. I think you need someone who isn't the producer to be host, someone that can objective, or more so then Mr. Cohen is. When I see him in action, I'm embarrassed to be a gay man and having to put up with the likes of him reinforcing every negative gay male stereotype.

With that said, I do think Kyle was correct in saying to Carleton that no one cares about her, and I did think it was funny that Kyle said that she isn't listening a thing Carlton's saying.. though Carlton hit a nerve by calling Kyle trash. LOL The problem with Carlton was that she said too much and jumped the gun with Kyle. She should have made nice with Kyle and let Kyle's true nature come out.

Yolanda is very disrespectful of Joyce, but I view it as Yolanda being jealous that Joyce actually has mastered the English language and landed a great guy who loves and adores her. Don't see Yolanda's 'king' coming to her defense LOL Finally, Joyce seemed to break the fourth wall a few times with explaining why she wrote about Yolanda's bad hosting, the tagline, and editing issues.

Brandi.... certainly knows how to work those tears. Fake fake tears when she's in trouble. Shame no one other then Joyce will ever call her out on that behavior.

Odd that the housewives franchise rewards bullying and makes mincemeat of the victim when they dare stand up for themself. People are focused on bullying in school, but I also think that focus should be on adults who bully too.

Edited April 2, 201411 yr by Soaplovers

Maybe Lisa can forgive? Okay, Maybe Brandi can forgive, too. A lot is said about Brandi's ability or inability to be a good friend, but Lisa surely lacks in that department as well. It's really how you handle the tougher times that speak even louder than what goes on in the good times.

Lisa's blog...

Unfortunately when Brandi entered my world, Scheana was already part of it. She had worked for me for three years and was already cast for Vanderpump Rules before Brandi was ever a Housewife and before we knew of any connection. Maybe if the tables were turned, I would not have befriended me when I joined the the show, as obviously the chance of crossing paths with her were much higher. But when Brandi started with Housewives I was the only one who was supportive of her.

To have someone who is so principally minded, so loyal, on your side is the greatest comfort of all. Brandi had that with him, too, and she knew it and she blew it. For someone to protect you against others is reassuring when you don't always make the best choices. Not many would put themselves in that position. He countless times, almost to the point of compromising his own integrity, went out on a limb for her.

When Brandi came on to this series part-time the majority of the other women were plotting Lisa's demise. Brandi wasn't the only one without "friends." Lisa is rewriting history like she and Ken were Brandi's great protector when she came on the show. Nah. Lisa initially believed Kyle and Kim about Brandi. Brandi & Lisa got along when Lisa got to know Brandi a little better but it's not like they were that close. Brandi flirted with Ken whenever she got a chance and they laughed about it. End of story. Lisa latched on after the first reunion. What happened at that reunion? Brandi had Lisa's back against everybody there and BFF Kyle dared to speak against the Queen Bee (okay, it was more than that with Kyle - she had clearly joined with Adrienne, etc to nail Lisa BUT still).

Lisa acting like Brandi was a liability she "adopted" as a friend from the start when the aforementioned is accurate and when she was very, very happy with Brandi taking on [Lisa's] enemies [for her]? Ugh. Lisa and Ken weren't the only ones putting their neck on the line to back up a women a lot of people had problems with.

^^^ Brandi clearly isn't the only one rewriting history and coming up with some utter pitiful BS.

Re: Scheana. Lisa needs to be honest about this chit, too. She's clearly closer to Scheana then she lets on - more family friend than employee. It's her right, but don't be a yo-yo about the issue just to try to win sympathy or an argument. Own it.

Yolanda trying to quiet Joyce and Carlton as not wanting to interrupt any onslaught coming in my direction. She was almost salivating at Kyle's aggression towards me. She herself has said many derogatory remarks about me over this season, and I maybe should have believed Kyle and Joyce when they tried to alert me that her intentions were less than good. But now coupled with her performance at the finale party I have clarity.

Heh. Yolanda is really not here for Lisa - and in a different way that Kyle and Brandi. Yolanda DGAF what she thinks. She just enjoys seeing her dragged because she honestly thinks she deserves it.

Brandi.... certainly knows how to work those tears. Fake fake tears when she's in trouble.

The only ones I thought exhibited real tears and emotion for most of that reunion are Brandi and Ken. Brandi is a bit of a messy train-wreck but she keeps it real - outside of the fillers - on an emotional level.