Members alexisfan07 Posted February 25, 2010 Members Share Posted February 25, 2010 Dude, Rachel and Tea were GETTING IT from Snoop. And did you see Matthew back it up on Dani? All of it was epic. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Cheap21 Posted February 25, 2010 Members Share Posted February 25, 2010 how many have been SORASed within the same story that featured both sets of kids? For example, the entire premise behind Dani being conceived was when Todd tried to get Ross to kidnap Jack when he was a baby. He failed and ended up conceving Dani with Tea, who thought Ross was the father. That was the story and it was heavily mentioned when Ross returned. RC kept reminding us that Ross tried to kidnap Jack and that Dani was born after that. By his own logic, there is NO way that she can be older than him. Had OLTL simply ignored the whole Ross angle and said that Tea had Dani back in 2000, when she and Todd left town together, it would have been more believable. They instead picked a time when it simply couldn’t make any sense, at least not without SORASing Jack as well Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members catsmeouch Posted February 25, 2010 Members Share Posted February 25, 2010 It's really not a big deal. It's called soap logic. You either go with it or you get off the train. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members DRW50 Posted February 25, 2010 Members Share Posted February 25, 2010 Which might explain why ratings fell once this story started. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members chrishntr Posted February 25, 2010 Members Share Posted February 25, 2010 I LOVED Tomlin's OLTL, it was the BEST. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Ann_SS Posted February 25, 2010 Members Share Posted February 25, 2010 Actually, TSJ and RH both stink to high heaven. They are both mediocre actors who look bored most of the time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members MichaelGL Posted February 25, 2010 Members Share Posted February 25, 2010 For every success (or entertaining plot) there was a failure. Having Niki kill Ben, making Jessica and Natalie twins with two different fathers, that awful Troy/Nora/Lindsay storyline, ugh...all big huge failures. Tomlin's era in a way mirrors RC's at the moment. Not truly great soap opera, but having its moments every now and then. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members DRW50 Posted February 25, 2010 Members Share Posted February 25, 2010 There was too much camp and more and more about these goofy moments than the quality of the stories. Camp is fine when there's a point but not just for the sake of it -- Niki never should have returned, and if she had, she never should have returned as that horrible joke, and as trying to kill several members of her own family. That wasn't Niki, and that was Erika Slezak's worst performance. The show also became very dark and there was no real ability to properly balance this type of tone. There was also a lot of WTF stuff which made no sense to me then or now, like Todd's island saga. The things I liked most of that era were Natalie/Cris and Roxy/Max. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members catsmeouch Posted February 25, 2010 Members Share Posted February 25, 2010 I'm talking about soaps in general, not OLTL. If OLTL's ratings went down because people were like, "ZOMG, Dani shouldn't be older than Jack!" then they should stick to watching primetime. Actually, you're wrong. RC shouldn't feel bad because there are no truly great soap operas on the air. Even when it's mediocre, OLTL is still the best. Yup, even better than Y&R. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members DRW50 Posted February 25, 2010 Members Share Posted February 25, 2010 Did people stop watching because of that rewrite, or did they stop watching because of the lousy story behind the rewrite? It has been what seems like an eternity of TSJ barely bothering to shrug any affection over this miracle child, as Tea does her pathetic martyr routine and FL makes a lot of faces. GL also lost ratings ground the year they decided to screw up the ages of characters (de-aging Daisy by nearly ten years and pretending she had never been on the show before; aging Leah Bauer by about 15 years for no apparent reason). If you're going to pull such a stunt on the audience they need to know why. As for quality, yes, I'd say OLTL is better than the other soaps, a hell of a lot better than Y&R, but that's in spite of many of their current stories, not because of them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members NorrthCafe Posted February 25, 2010 Members Share Posted February 25, 2010 Ayup... pretty much! I remember Bell told viewers to accept a storyline for what it was or go... and they did, IN DROVES. Brad Bell was writing the 'Ridget' storyline. Ridge believed he was Bridget's father until she was about 7 years old - when he learned that his bio father was her father. Later, when she was about 19, he found out that they didn't share a father after all and the two fell almost instantly in love once they both knew. They even kissed. It must have shocked Bell that fans tuned out in huge numbers pretty much within a week of that article being released. What do the powerless that be forget that they need the fans more than the fans need them!?!? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members catsmeouch Posted February 25, 2010 Members Share Posted February 25, 2010 I don't buy that argument. Why in the hell would anyone tune out because of SORASing? That's just ridiculous. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members DRW50 Posted February 25, 2010 Members Share Posted February 25, 2010 It's not about SORASing it's about rewriting a timeline that they referenced only weeks before the rewrite. They went from saying that Tea and Todd were on the island because of Jack to saying that Jack was not born until 4-5 years after the island. It's also about the story being so lousy and not worth the effort. If you can't even get your lead actor to even try to give a performance, then why do the rewrite? If it was just to anchor their precious Tea to the canvas, she's actually become more pointless and easily written out. If it was to build up the Todd/Tea love, it's just exposed how empty their relationship is. People can call it meta or whatever else, but when the show decides to be so glib about viewer concerns, whether it be this Jack scene, or Todd using air quotes to dismiss all the things he did to Marty, then they're basically asking people to tune out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Marco Dane Posted February 25, 2010 Members Share Posted February 25, 2010 A WHAT "DVD" LOL Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Llantano Incorporated Posted February 25, 2010 Members Share Posted February 25, 2010 Courtney Simon wrote todays show. I think this is her first. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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