Jump to content

Y&R Episodes Discussion, Week of November 2, 2009


Recommended Posts

  • Members

It wasn't that Crimson Lights was open late, it was that the bar closed early. The clock at the bar said 10 o'clock.

The way I took it, the bar had been closed for Billy's private party so when he left early, Mac was free to shut it down. Since he'd paid to rent out the place, assuming she's a good businesswoman and charged him, she wasn't losing much money by leaving early.

Link to comment
Share on other sites

  • Replies 242
  • Created
  • Last Reply
  • Members

:lol:

Who wants to bet that they didn't anticipate the viewer backlash they got from Patty killing Zapato and only did this to calm old nerves?

Not that I particularly cared for Zapato or dogs on soaps, but Zapato's death was so unnecessary and stupid, they really didn't need to go there to show how mentally damaged Patty was/is. It was done purely for shock value.

Link to comment
Share on other sites

  • Members

I honestly don't mind AH in the role of Victoria Newman. I know I'm in the minority here, but I could never, ever stand Heather Tom. I didn't like her on Y&R and I didn't like her on OLTL. I always felt she came off rather "trashy" on both those shows. On B&B, not so much, I feel like she is much more well suited there.

JM on the other hand, I absolutely cannot nor have I ever been able to tolerate. If another legacy character is going to be killed off, I hope it's Nicholas Newman.

Link to comment
Share on other sites

  • Members

You can't kill off Nick. He never dies. Perhaps if you wave fire in his face. Fire bad!

I really liked Amelia on Loving. I've seen her work well elsewhere. I don't know what it is with Y&R, she just seems so drippy all the time.

Link to comment
Share on other sites

  • Members

If they didn't make Chloe Kate, Kate could have come to town as a teenager. I didn't watch during Bill Bell's time as head writer, but how old is Mai? Could she come back as a teen or would she be in her 20's?

Were Daniel and Amber suppose to be a couple from the 80's?

Maybe she was always drippy. Victoria is suppose to be the opposite of that and Amelia's drippiness sticks out more. I don't know if that's it. It's just a theory.

Link to comment
Share on other sites

  • Members

IA. There was no point for her to kill the dog. Just like there was no point for her to kill the bird and throw it through Phyllis' window. But they wrote that in because those 3 sick hack writers want fans to think of Patty as some mentally disturbed sociopathic monster. Just like they had Adam burn Ashley's dead baby. They will probably have Ryder rape Eden, then Abby and then probably have him kill Lauren and then try to plaster him as some good guy who's misunderstood.

Link to comment
Share on other sites

  • Members

I also thought there was an interesting Chance-Ashley vibe. She's rocked the cougar thing before (with Rick, Amber's ex, on B&B). I think Driscoll would work out better there.

As a bona fide Amber fan, I found that couple beyond useless yesterday. I found Frantz's vamping cringeworthy. Yesterday was not their finest hour, IMO.

LOL

Speaking of vamping, I perceived a lot of that from Daisy yesterday. I don't want her to be a hair tossing Mean Girl.

Excellent observations regarding Phyllis! That's it! "Don't con a con!" Phyllis saw through Adam, and she played the truth of it. CHEMISTRY, IMO! A new quad? I don't want that either...but it was the first time we'd seen real-Phyllis in forever.

I'm going to assume that this pregnancy was hard on Heinle, and that is why she and Thad took an early maternity leave. Unfortunately, night-time feedings are going to be even harder.

Heinle really needs to just relinquish this role.

I am shocked MTS let that dog lick her face so much! I love my dog a lot, but I also know where that tongue and nose have been! No mouth kisses ever! We discourage licking in general.

That makes great sense. I didn't figure all that out.

Heather as petulant, and as a mix between her temper-filled daddy and histrionic, often-supercilious mama, was perfection, IMO. She was the opposite of Hayley Erin and Amelia Heinle: Not vapid, filled with energy.

When Joshua WANTS to bring energy to a scene, he is fine. The problem is that he's mostly as low-energy as Heinle these days. I'm thinking he's a typically under-prepared actor whose skills are further degraded by the new rush-production/no rehearsal style.

I agree. I realize it is superficial, but I really do view a lot of what has happened these last few weeks to be a studious attempt to reverse course. The problem is that TPTB so compromised their trust with a segment of the audience that a lot of folks don't believe this is anything but some superficial papering over of much deeper flaws.

The real test is if they can continue to build momentum and avoid repeating their mistakes. Some looming spumors--if true--are very discouraging on this front. Let's hope they don't come true.

Yes, the Patty ruination was unnecessary. What they do with Ryder will be a major test of how much they have listened to the fans.

I am hoping that--with his flashback yesterday--we're going to a place of healing and redemption...not further darkness. But I know that is unlikely...

Link to comment
Share on other sites

  • Members

Me too!! I would have assumed she was way too diva for all that. Maybe she just couldn't think of a good way to stop him in the scene. Pushing him away may not have worked with the tone of the scene. But I'm with you. I adore my dog, but I would never allow him to lick my face.

Zapato 2 does not make up for Patty killing Zapato, but I do like to think that the show understands that killing Zapato was disturbing to many of us. Too bad they didn't glean from that the fact that many of us would also have an issue with Colleen dying and Victor getting her heart.

Anyway, Victor is exactly the type of man who would have a dog. He demands unconditional love and devotion from everyone around him and is continually disappointed that his children and wives fall short of these demands. So I am glad to see a dog back at Victor's side. I would have rather they had Nikki rescue an adult dog though, since it would have fit better with the idea of a second chance.

Link to comment
Share on other sites

Archived

This topic is now archived and is closed to further replies.

  • Recently Browsing   0 members

    • No registered users viewing this page.



  • Recent Posts

    • Dear God in Heaven (/KatherineChancellor), maybe blazer is the wrong word - I’m just saying André needs to wear baggy clothes or larger sizes cause he’s a short king and the sizes they’ve chosen for him make him look smaller and shorter than necessary  

      Please register in order to view this content

      btw he’s not even that young, must be around Martin’s age…
    • I think she left before Justin. I remember someone saying her last scene is dancing with Ross at the ball, telling him she's leaving to be with Ben.
    • What a wonderful photo! It really is a shame that Peacock will not show those early years. I know I'd love to see them!
    • With the death of Days and GH actress, Denise Alexander, someone posted this in the Days thread, a '60s-era photo of some of the cast, which lists the names. In the upper left, is a young Susan Flannery, who obviously ended up playing Stephanie Forrester on B&B, who was one of a few actresses to play Dr. Laura Horton [mother to Mike and Jennifer Horton] on Days. Here is a link to the photo: https://boards.soapoperanetwork.com/topic/38014-days-behind-the-scenes-articlesphotos/?do=findComment&comment=2022200  
    • https://parade.com/news/days-of-our-lives-star-susan-seaforth-hayes-pays-heartfelt-tribute-to-denise-alexander-a-friend-to-treasure

      Please register in order to view this content

    • Sorry, there must have been a error, while creating the file. I redone it and it has audio
    • Tamara Tunie was on a local CBS affiliate in Baltimore the other day talking about a few things she had going on, BTG amongst them: "Beyond the Gates" star Tamara Tunie is in Baltimore for the Reginald F. Lewis Museum's 20th anniversary
    • Kobe/Long had their own template and pretty much gutted the cast. As soon as contracts were up established characters were dropped. They needed to free the budget for the new characters. Going back to Ann,I wonder why the Dobsons renewed her contract around 78? After her initial story she became supporting and they didn't seem to want to pursue a romance with Mike. Maybe the feedback was that viewers blamed her indirectly for Leslie's death. If Mike hadn't taken on her case etc. Did she decide not to disrupt her son's life? Seems odd after everything she didn't claim him back. 1976 continues... Joe Werner is just not bouncing back after his recovery as he should, and Sarah, concerned about his sometimes morbid-seeming depression, consults Justin Marler. They agree that Joe is becoming a “cardiac cripple,” and know this kind of overcompensation for illness and overprecaution can not only be a permanently depressed condition but can actually cause a setback for him physically.  Marler releases Joe into Sarah’s care, but it’s soon apparent that just being out of the hospital hasn’t done anything to boost Joe’s spirits about his return to a normal existence. Marler finally lays it out to Joe—the choice has to be his. He can choose to lead a normal, productive life as a doctor and as a husband to the best wife he could have, or he can choose to become an invalid and live on the outside looking in for the rest of his days, sentencing Sarah to the same fate. Realizing the selfishness of what he’s doing to —Sarah as well as the narrowness of the confinement he’s set for himself, Joe begins to see his preoccupation with his illness as the self-pity it really is and decides he’s ready to return to the hospital for a one hour shift each day. Sarah is overjoyed by his turnabout, but full happiness is hers on the day she overhears Joe telling a fearful patient that the world is beautiful and worth any. effort to get back into it. Steve and Adam are thrilled to learn that Cedars has been the recipient of the Levy Grant for expansion of hospital property. But they have learned, as they report to Ed, that the land they were hoping to build the new research facility on, the land immediately adjacent to the hospital, has been purchased by Dr. Justin Marler. Both Adam and Steve feel that Justin is expanding a power base at Cedars and the land purchase is just one more block in Justin’s power play. When Ed asks Marler why he purchased this particular parcel of land, Marler explains that he bought it with the express intention of someday building his own offices and facilities convenient to the major facilities of Cedars. When the subject of the hospital’s needing the land arises, Marler meets with Adam, and they agree that he should realize a fair profit from his property and that an unbiased assessor should be engaged to evaluate the market value of the land so they can agree on a selling price. When Sarah comments on the fact that Marler is to realize a profit on the land, he bitterly replies that no matter what he’s done since coming to Cedars to prove that he has changed. since she last knew him, she refuses to see him as anything but what he was all those years ago. Sarah insists this isn’t true. But Marler then calls Adam for a meeting and informs him that the land is not for sale at any price. As Adam begins to grow alarmed, Marler continues that the site for the new building will be his personal donation to the hospital. As Adam expresses profuse thanks and appreciation, Marler wryly notes that the tax deductions he’ll realize on this contribution to a charitable institution will benefit himself almost as much as Cedars. When Steve Jackson learns that Marler is to be elected head of the research wing that will be built on his property, he expresses the conviction that this was the exact intention of the gift. Adam, however, assures Steve that the donation wasn’t a factor in the hospital  board’s decision, they were concerned only with Dr. Marler’s reputation as a doctor. | After lengthy consultations and meetings. with the hospital  staff, Ed assured by the head nurse that her nurses performed commendably despite the added pressure of the train wreck, presents his findings to the hospital review board. Steve arrives at two possible explanations for the facts. Either Grainger, more active than usual due to the previously delayed medication, reached for the writing pad and inadvertently disconnected the breathing tubes, or he was in a state of extreme upset because of the delayed medication and.in the excitement a surge of adrenalin within his system caused his brain aneurism to start hemorrhaging. " Upon learning that the review board has ruled out negligence in Grainger’s death, Ed tells Rita, who takes her first free breath in a long time. But Ed hasn’t thought to tell Rita that he’s been in touch with Grainger’s attorney, Mr. Schafer, who, knowing that a woman was at the base of Grainger’s investigation, is coming to Springfield to try to find out who the woman - was who walked out on Grainger when he collapsed —in the restaurant. Peggy, learning that Rita’s “forgetting” to deliver Holly’s message was instrumental in their divorce ‘being finalized, tells Ed that Holly wanted to reach him to stop the divorce. Immediately after, Peggy is torn by doubts, wondering if she did the right thing.She confides in Barbara, who then discusses the situation with Ed. He tells her he and Holly have discovered a new closeness now that they are building their separate lives. Barbara quickly contradicts him: Holly is not building a new life. Barbara gently cautions Ed, saying, “People change, feelings change, and what seems right now may not be right a year from now. No decision is irrevocable.” Ed agrees with this. Now that Ben has declared his love for her, Hope finds herself apprehensive, fearing that she might be making a mistake, as she did a few years ago, when she was sure she was in love with her college professor. Explaining that she doesn’t want to make another mistake, she asks Ben to be patient, and he agrees. When Mike expresses his disapproval of Ben’s overstated independence, his need to be beholden to no one, Hope quickly jumps to Ben’s defense, and Mike apologizes. But Ben, surprisingly, accepts Mike’s assessment as constructive criticism. Later Hope, examining her feelings and desires, tells Ben she does love him and wants to belong to him. Later that evening, after they’ve made love, Ben asks Hope to marry him.And, delighted, she replies that she will. At Hope’s instigation, Bert has a family dinner to which Ben is invited, and Hope announces their intention to marry over glasses of wine. Mike politely offers best wishes while Bert thrills the couple with her offer to' make a Christmas wedding for them. Bert later tells Mike he must accept this engagement with good spirits for Hope, and later, seeing the joy she’s feeling, he gives his daughter his approval. But Ben finds another problem on his very own doorstep: his brother Jerry, who announces he’s left home after several bad fights with their parents. He refuses to tell Ben what they were fighting about. As Ben is showering, Jerry borrows his car and goes out for an hour. The phone rings, but Ben can’t hear it. Shortly after, two uniformed officers visit Mike at home to tell him that his late wife’s car has been involved in a delicatessen robbery earlier in the evening. Since Ben bought Leslie’s car, Mike accompanies the officers to Ben’s apartment. Ben curtly informs the police that he had nothing to do with the robbery and makes it clear that he feels they wouldn’t be there if he didn’t have a record and that his exoneration doesn’t prevent his being hassled like any ex-con,as they tell him he has to go to the police station for questioning. Hope tells Ben she called him earlier, and when he replies that he must have been in the shower, she accepts his word unhesitatingly.Jerry finally returns to Ben’s place and under questioning from Ben admits that he robbed the store,explaining that he has debts. Ben is now in a quandary,as he feels he must protect his brother but doesn’t want to be unfair to Hope. He tries to ease the situation by withdrawing $185 from the joint checking account he opened with Hope and repaying the delicatessen owner. He then sends Jerry out of town to stay with a friend. His relief at having solved the problem is short-lived, however, when Mike informs him that, despite the reparations, the robbery was a felony and the police will continue to investigate. Hope is badly upset to learn while making a deposit that Ben withdrew’a sum which Mike tells her is equal to the amount stolen. This shakes her belief that he _was really home when she called, and she goes to him, asking for an answer to put her mind at rest. Ben can’t betray Jerry and asks Hope to trust him, promising she will have the whole story eventually. But Hope can’t accept this; she needs complete honesty and openness in her relationship and without it cannot goon. She painfully tells her father that the wedding is off despite her love for Ben, and tells Bert to stop preparations. Mike goes to Ben, reminding him that half the money in the account is Hope’s and she has the right to an answer. But Ben won’t say any more and refuses Mike’s offer to represent him legally, again stating that he doesn’t need a lawyer, because he’s done nothing wrong.     
×
×
  • Create New...

Important Information

By using this site, you agree to our Terms of Use and Privacy Policy