Carl, you find some of the most amazing (and obscure) videos.

 

Good job!

55 minutes ago, vetsoapfan said:

Carl, you find some of the most amazing (and obscure) videos.

 

Good job!

 

Thanks. I was looking for AMC videos and found that channel via some Season Hubley interview - just a reminder of how many soap names were also on Broadway, and what NYC has lost with the death of daytime soaps. 

 

It's weird seeing Lisa Brown in that context - although she's good (she plays it more serious than I had expected though). The guy annoys me a bit.

 

This was around the time JvD was likely an extra on Ryan's Hope. He wouldn't have made a bad Pat recast - I wonder if they regretted losing him. 

 

If any of you want to see more from Lee Philip Bell's talk show, there are a few clips on that channel.

On 12/25/2016 at 7:02 AM, Nothin'ButAttitude said:

 

 

No! 

 

Why would you wanna kill Quint?! Nola still could've had stories outside of him, Quint could've still assisted Nola in various capers surrounding her journalistic career, which we all know she would've involved in. I do think that a Nola/Fletcher/Quint triangle would've been hot and interesting to see how Maureen would've reacted as she had a soft spot for him in later years. 

 

I seriously think that Quint should've been transitioned into an educator, who struggled with the steadiness, restrictions, and bureaucracy of education versus being an ex-archeologist. A restless Quint could've caused tension between he and Nola, which led to him being written off for a few years had Nola chose to stick around. 

They actually did make Quint a professor at the college...and they had that dumb storyline (or sorts) with a student chasing after him...but it really wasnt much of a storyline.

 

I just think Quint is one of those characters who was created for a specific reason and ran on too long. Maybe a writer could have brought more depth to him but he was just a kind of stiff, intelligent guy who loved Nola and ...that was that. It would have been interesting to see him develop a shade of grey like his sister...( I think he had more of an edge during Marland...) maybe Henry could have one of his innumerable heart attacks and while he is recovering leaves his Spaulding stock to him instead of Van, etc. I do think the Haunted Cabin storyline should have gone to Nola and Quint, with him first skeptical but then bringing in some tech to see what is going on etc. I also think they "de-sexed" the two of them as soon as they got married and she had kids, etc.

 

They just should have gotten rid of those damn ascots!!!

 

 

LOL..I remember that little snippet with Brown. This was the last time Nola had any story..it was weird. Did Brown piss someone off, was it the Reva effect starting or did Brown want more time off?

Just now, Mitch said:

LOL..I remember that little snippet with Brown. This was the last time Nola had any story..it was weird. Did Brown piss someone off, was it the Reva effect starting or did Brown want more time off?

 

I get the feeling the show just didn't know what to do with her. 

Just now, DRW50 said:

 

I get the feeling the show just didn't know what to do with her. 

Nosy Nola was like Buttinsky Lisa on ATWT, she could have fit in with anyone even if she wasnt the lead in the story.  As mentioned above this was just before the Haunted Cottage story and it was weird to give that to boring Annabelle...and Hot Tony. Its weird that she and Reva werent friends , you would think that the Clothes Horse Wild Woman would be friends with the Eccentricly dressed former bad girl who still gets into trouble Nola.  Even better would have been Nola and stuck up India as weird friends. Ah well, if we could have written the show at that time.

I so meant to share this back on New Year's but here was the daily synopsis from Usenet for 12-30-93: 

 

Mindy's-  Tangie tells Mindy the dress she's wearing is beautifuyl.  Mindy 
 says they'll have a good time at the Tower's Club casino for New Years. 
 She says Josh will help Tangie get out of the mess she's in.
Billy's-  Bill talks to some guy.  He says he has enough money to pay for what
 he ordered.  The guy makes a comment about rich kids.  Billy asks Josh how
 big trouble Tangie is in.  Josh asks him to tell him if somebody looks funny
 at Tangie.  Van tells Dylan some girl he knows is home from college.  Dylan
 says he's taking Bridget to the party.
Ed's-  Michelle asks Bridget if she'll play backgammon with her tonight.
 Bridget says she has plans.
Holly's-  Holly says she can't wait anymore, she has to call for help.  Roger
 says there's no one to trust.  Holly says she can trust Ed and she's calling
 him.

Ed's-  Ed says he and Eve don't have any plans.  Bridget offers to come home
 early so they can slip out together.  He says Eve needs a rest.  Bridget 
 says she needs a tune up.  Eve comes in and asks Ed why the locks on her lab
 were changed.  He says he didn't tell her because he didn't want to ruin
 her holiday.  Ed says Holly's been pretty reasonable about the whole thing.
 She asks why don't they convict her publicly instead of privately.  She says
 she'll fight to the end.
Holly's-  Roger says not to call Ed, he can't be trusted.  Holly says he can't
 stand Ed helping him.  She says it's not fair for him to be childish when
 people who love him want him to stick around.  Blake comes in the house.
Billy's-  Billy says Tangie isn't his business.  Van says she was upset that
 Dylan didn't tell her Hart is the father.  He says it was Bridget's place to
 tell.  Billy overhears her saying she doesn't know how she can tell Billy
 that Peter is Roger's grandson.

Holly's-  Holly asks Blake if the door was unlocked.  Blake says she used her
 key.  Blake says she needed to see Holly before the party.  Holly says she's
 not going.  Blake says she won't argue because she's happy.  She shows Holly
 her engagement ring.  Holly asks if Ross knows.  She says he asked her.  Holly
 says she'd better get going.  Blake asks why she's trying to get rid of her.
 She thinks Holly is upset that they're engaged.  Holly says she'll explain 
 and she brings Blake in to see Roger.  Holly tells Roger she had to show 
 Blake he was here.
Mindy's-  Tangie asks Mindy what she wants in '94.  Mindy says she can do with
 more stuff like Roger getting shot and Alex getting arrested.  Tangie asks if
 she thinks Alex shot him.  She says who knows.  Tangie says her resolution is
 to stay alive and not to get caught.  They look for her shoes.

Mindy's-  Somebody's at the door.  They get scared and almost attack Bill with
 their umbrellas.  Mindy asks what he was doing, that they were scared.  Bill 
 says he's sorry, he just came to bring the picture to Tangie now that he 
 knows her mom isn't an artist.  He says the cab outside is his.  Josh tells
 Bill not to tell Marah how much allowance he gets.  Mindy says he has a crush
 on Tangie- isn't it cute.  Tangie says he is cute and very rich.
Holly's-  Blake says she believed Roger was ok because he's a survivor.  She
 asks where he was.  He says he was hiding at Holly's and that Holly didn't
 know until now.  She says Jenna's living at Mallet and Harley's.  She asks
 if the baby is his.  He says yes.  He says he heard about her and Ross being
 engaged.  He asks if they're doing it because they thought he was dead.  She
 says she's doing it because she loves him.  Blake goes to get Roger some 
 medicine.  Holly calls Ed's and asks Bridget where he is.
Ed's-  Ed says Eve doesn't need a lawsuit.  Eve says the rumor mill will get 
 going.  Ed asks why she didn't think about that first.  He says he's sorry, 
 that he knows how hard this is.  Eve says spare her- she's not going to let
 it go that easy.  She asks why he left her with nothing.  Ed says it's not 
 what he wanted- he wanted to spend the holidays with her.  He says he misses
 her.  Eve says she thought she was the only one who felt like that.  Bridget
 tells Ed Holly's on the phone and it's urgent.  Eve says perfect as he leaves.
Billy's-  Billy hears Dylan and Van talking.  Van asks what's going on w/ 
 Bridget.  He says he's helping her redo the boarding house and she's going
 to go to college.  Dylan says there's nothing between them- they're just 
 setting each other up.  Van tells him to have fun.  Dylan leaves.  Billy
 comes in and stares at Van.

Holly's-  Ed comes in and asks what happened.  Holly says she doesn't want 
 him to be alarmed but to please not tell anyone.  He thinks Eve did something
 but she tells him it's not Eve and to bring his medical bag.
Mindy's-  Tangie comments that Mindy's house is far for Bill to come.  Josh
 and Mindy talk about Bill having a crush on Tangie.  Tangie asks Josh if Bill
 was here the day the money disappeared.  They talk about how rich he's become
 giving expensive presents to girls.  Mindy leaves a memo on the machine for
 Nick.  They go to the party.  Sneaky guy (the one who bugged Mindy at Cross
 Creek) comes to the window.

Holly's-  Ed looks at Roger.  Roger says Ed hates finding Roger alive and in
 Holly's bed.  Ed says the arm is ok and the bullet might kill him.  He gives
 Roger a prescription.  Roger says Ed owes him for saving his life and not to
 tell anyone.  Ed says he just saved Roger's life and they're even.  Ed says 
 Roger will make it if he follows instructions.  Holly says she promised not to
 tell.  Ed says Roger is wanted by the police and he should be in a hospital. 
 She tells him to forget that it's Roger.  He says he can't- it always comes
 down to the three of them.
Billy's-  Billy is taking pictures of Van and Peter.  He says Van loves Peter
 more than anyone knows.  Billy says he hopes the pictures come out- a good
 way to remember the end of the year.  Mary shows up and Van tells her to take
 good care of Peter and Mary tells them to have a good time.  Van asks where
 Bill is.  She comments on him liking Michelle and says she wouldn't be a
 teenager again for all the world.  She says she'll go pick him up.  Van almost
 tells Billy about Peter's dad, but doesn't.
Ed's-  Eve sees Dylan.  She says his car's in her way.  he says he'll move it.
 Bridget comes out and apologizes to Eve for her comment earlier.  She says
 Eve looks good and to have a good night.  Eve tells her to have a good night
 and leaves.  Dylan comes backs and sees Bridget.  She asks if he likes her
 hair (it's cut short).  He says he loves it but the high heels she's wearing
 need work.  She says she won't wear practical shoes with her dress.  He says
 she won't be able to walk with those shoes.  She says she is trying to look
 taller.  He says she looks like a short person in stilts.  She says his 
 aftershave is too strong.  She says he'll be too much for the girls she's 
 going to introduce him to.  She says she'll go change her shoes.  They go in
 the house.  Michelle is outside.  Bill drives up in a golf cart. She asks
 what it is.  He says it's her Christmas present a little late- Happy New 
 Year.  She smiles.

Ed's-  Michelle asks where it came from.  He says he got it for her.  She 
 asks why.  He says it's because he really likes her.  Van comes in and asks
 Bill how he got the golf cart.
Party-  Josh and Mindy and Tangie show up.  Eve congratulates Mindy on her 
 engagement.  Mindy goes to find Nick.  Bridget and Dylan show up.  Dylan says
 Tangie looks like a million bucks.  She says not anymore.
Mindy's-  Sneaky guy breaks in and tears the place up.
Billy's-  Billy gives Peter to Mary.  She takes him upstairs.  He goes outside
 then goes back in and takes a drink from the liquor cabinet.
Holly's-  Blake thanks Ed for seeing Roger.  Ed says he has to report Roger.
 Blake goes into the room and Roger is gone.  She tells Holly he's gone and
 goes outside and looks for him.

			THE END (until Monday)

Thanks. At the time the Eve and Ed stuff was just about all I had interest in. It's interesting looking back - it reminds me of how complicated the show often was at this point, more than I remembered. 

This scene is just...exquisitely written

 

 

Maureen: Living in that house, sleeping in that bed with him, it has all become such a habit to me. That the first thing I thought was that somehow it would resume. That it would go on. That I would forgive him. That I would listen to him the way that I have for all these years. To that list of his sadnesses and his hurts about how wild and crazy he is on the inside. And that it makes him do selfish things instead of being good. And that I would finally agree that heaven disappointed him and drove him to it. 

 

Ellen Parker is just astounding in all of these scenes. I can't get over it.

 

And Maureen was an angel of a soap character. This is on her list of "crimes committed" from soap central: Nearly burned down the Bauer house on Skyline Drive, when she forgets about a roast in the oven. 

The confrontation with Lilian will always be severely implanted in my brain. It's that perfect moment when great acting, writing, and directing combine.

 

 

Just a masterful run by Curlee, Demorest, etc

It's unfortunate, but typical JFP, that she got lip service scenes (brilliantly written and acted as they were) when the story was really about Ed's pain and suffering. 

Not sure if it's been asked/posted here before, but when was Robert Calhoun replaced by Jill Farren Phelps? I'm pretty sure it was sometime during the first half of 1991, but I don't recall the exact month. Also, did Robert Calhoun leave on his own choice or did P&G terminate him?

Hi all. Long time lurker and occasional poster here. I've been making up for the lack of decent soap on tv by scouring for for classic soap videos and lately I've been on a GL binge. Some of it is amazingly good, some is shockingly bad and some is so creakily obvious.

 

On the obvious front, Philip and Harley probably seemed like a good idea on paper. I remember when Grant Aleksander returned in 96 and it looked like they were going to pair him with Annie. I was glad to be spared another Rick/Philip pass-around. Trying to get the Philip and Harley working without resolving his relationship with Beth was a dumb move. Looking at the episodes now it is painfully obvious the writers were trying to turn Harley into the shows marquee heroine by making her "perfect" and her relationship with Philip oh-so fated. Then they turned to that old standby of "trash the ex the audience won't let go of" because, you know, that always works. Two scenes I just watched epitomize this mess for me. The first is Annie's wedding to Alan and Harley tells a total stranger who has just said that Beth looks great, "Yes, and now that she's on new medicine she doesn't drool anymore." This was someone's idea of entertainment? Having Harley making nasty remarks about the mental health issues someone they audience watched have a nervous breakdown after her stepfather violently raped her? In another episode Frank tells Harley to think of herself for once in her life. Laugh out loud material, there. I can't believe this couple ate the show for two years.

 

The San Cristobel stuff is train-wreck compelling. I hope they all drank between scenes because no one should have been forced to say that crap sober. Laura Wright had some great scenes telling Reva where to get off but then I always did enjoy someone reading Reva for filth. Other than that, the Stripper Pole Princess story was nuts.