20 minutes ago, Spoon said:

Don't forget that Fletcher was a bad father as well, look how he basically abandoned Ben and how he turned out.

I don't really put that on Fletcher. Until the show decided to say that being sexually abused makes you a serial killer, the worst to say about Ben was being a cad.

Edited 20 hours ago20 hr by DRW50

20 hours ago, alwaysAMC said:

Ohhh, that must mean Billy finally goes to see Vanessa... and that would be great, I'd look forward to that (and expect it). :)

There's also some Ross/Vanessa, IIRC.

1 hour ago, Mitch64 said:

My other victim would have been Buzz, but could you imagine the long..long..death scene they would give Deas...sputtering, spitting, arms a flailing about! And yes, they would have Fletcher come back as ghost, dressed in white with that dumb ass hat, to tell Holly he will always watch over her...YUCCCCK!

If wishes were fishes....there's just a point that Buzz was way beyond played out.

35 minutes ago, DRW50 said:

I don't really put that on Fletcher. Until the show decided to say that being sexually abused makes you a serial killer, the worst to say about Ben was being a cad.

Yeah, not blaming Fletch for some dumb writers decision.

Thanks again @alwaysAMC

I had some memories of the Jim and Cassie test, but I did NOT remember that they met in a strip club. I wonder how his wife felt about that...

I hope you weren't spoiled about Holly's current story, one of the most insane ever on GL, but grounded by the one and only Maureen Garrett.

18 minutes ago, DRW50 said:

Thanks again @alwaysAMC

I had some memories of the Jim and Cassie test, but I did NOT remember that they met in a strip club. I wonder how his wife felt about that...

I hope you weren't spoiled about Holly's current story, one of the most insane ever on GL, but grounded by the one and only Maureen Garrett.

So turns out, he went to the strip club after his wife died, unsure of what he was looking for... but they bonded that night over being single parents and doing whatever possible to take care of them. Seemed like a big stretch haha.

So I've known all along that Holly was the Nursery Rhyme Stalker and I knew she eventually kidnaps the kids (because of that promo long ago of her with the kids and a flute I think, although I haven't seen a flute yet).... but I don't know what she ends up doing with them nor how she'll ever be redeemed, so that's good and what I look forward to seeing. I still choose to believe this is all Fletcher's fault :P

31 minutes ago, alwaysAMC said:

So turns out, he went to the strip club after his wife died, unsure of what he was looking for... but they bonded that night over being single parents and doing whatever possible to take care of them. Seemed like a big stretch haha.

Thanks.

I wonder which man wrote that. The only thing missing is them having sex but her giving him his money back.

The timelines are confusing to me as that would mean Mrs. Lemay had been dead over a year and a half before Susan arrived in Springfield. For some reason I thought she'd died later than that.

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14 minutes ago, DRW50 said:

Thanks.

I wonder which man wrote that. The only thing missing is them having sex but her giving him his money back.

The timelines are confusing to me as that would mean Mrs. Lemay had been dead a year and a half before Susan arrived in Springfield. For some reason I thought she'd died later than that.

They surprisingly got it right - when Jim and Susan came on, they mentioned her mom passed a little over a year ago or so... so I guess it fits. That's why she's having trouble not having a mother figure as she's becoming a teen and he's having trouble being a single dad.

3 hours ago, DRW50 said:

Until the show decided to say that being sexually abused makes you a serial killer, the worst to say about Ben was being a cad.

And that, I put on Ben's biological father, Kyle Sampson. Even though he didn't raise Ben, it was definitely in Ben's genes, lol.

Edited 16 hours ago16 hr by Khan

I'm in the beginnings of the Spaulding takeover plot. Ross just let Leo know he was hired by Spaulding and got him on edge. I always enjoy Leo-I wish they'd let him be more than Roger's fixer and be more of a sleazy, lurking presence for when someone needs something shady or is desperate. The Leo/Ross dynamic is fun.

Ann Hamilton as Mindy in scenes with Dylan is really painful. Nadine just hosted a get together for Mindy returning, and Mindy/Dylan/Frank is a whole lot of bland. I thought Dylan had a good chemistry with Krista Simms' Mindy and Melissa Hayden elevates Morgan Englund, but these Mindy scenes are rough.

I'm a bit amused right now that Eve is living at the boarding house, and somehow she has the absolute worst room there. The decor is all stark white, and like half the size of the Harley/Lucy room that has a lot of character and the huge terrace thing.

Blake and Roger reconcile when she finds him at Maureen's grave (his gravesite speech moved me much more than Ed's that came right after) then immediately realize they're on opposite sides of the Spaulding takeover. There's some irony that Blake went after Ross to hurt Holly, but ultimately it ends up being what distances Blake from Roger.

12 minutes ago, GL95 said:

I'm in the beginnings of the Spaulding takeover plot. Ross just let Leo know he was hired by Spaulding and got him on edge. I always enjoy Leo-I wish they'd let him be more than Roger's fixer and be more of a sleazy, lurking presence for when someone needs something shady or is desperate. The Leo/Ross dynamic is fun.

Robert Lupone was a delight as Leo. I always looked forward to seeing him. GL lost something when those recurrers were phased out.

59 minutes ago, GL95 said:

Blake and Roger reconcile when she finds him at Maureen's grave (his gravesite speech moved me much more than Ed's that came right after)

Roger visiting Maureen's grave was one of MZ's most memorable scenes from his 1989-1997 run. I thought that scene should have been on his Emmy reel.

15 hours ago, DRW50 said:

I don't really put that on Fletcher. Until the show decided to say that being sexually abused makes you a serial killer, the worst to say about Ben was being a cad.

I love what soaps think of being a "cad" is dating a lot (I will ignore the "take Marah's virginity thing as that was just...nasty on the writers part") but other characters who do the same are seen as romantic alpha males(nasty Jeffery who was a male Petri dish..I always wanted GL to be the first soap to explore a STD break out with Jeffery at the center,,,but it would have those weird Cole hausfrau fans screaming "Giving me chlamydia Jeffery") If I looked like Ben/Boomer, I woulda screwed my way through that whole town (leaving each person happier then when I met them) Not that it was past Conwest but Boomer/Garret together would have been hot and Holly needed some younger man time to get out of her "Im sorry I was a stalker" phase.

Edited 5 hours ago5 hr by Mitch64

10 hours ago, GL95 said:

Ann Hamilton as Mindy in scenes with Dylan is really painful. Nadine just hosted a get together for Mindy returning, and Mindy/Dylan/Frank is a whole lot of bland. I thought Dylan had a good chemistry with Krista Simms' Mindy and Melissa Hayden elevates Morgan Englund, but these Mindy scenes are rough.

I'm a bit amused right now that Eve is living at the boarding house, and somehow she has the absolute worst room there. The decor is all stark white, and like half the size of the Harley/Lucy room that has a lot of character and the huge terrace thing.

Poor Ann Hamilton, an example of JFP taking out on the character (by hiring a bad recast) because she was pissed at the actor. Rozel as Eleni was not as bad as the actress was beautiful and gave "nice" off but was bland and Eleni was underwritten and only Melina gave the characters a zip.. Englund and Simms had great sibling chem...they really did seem like older sister/young brother. A dyanamic totally laost after she left.

Those Boardinghouse room sets were never consistent and never looked like they belonged in the same house (though not as bad as Nola/Stalker period when they had her living in room with a galley kitchenette.) That terrace room was left over from the Kobe period..it was the room Beth lived in after she left home to get away from Bradley. I lo love when they are consistent with sets.

I think had Ann Hamilton been cast after Krista instead of after Simms, her Mindy wouldn't have been so jarring. Since Hamilton couldn't be sensual/sexy like Simms was (but very few could be), she seemed to try to portray Mindy as a 90s version of Annie Oakley.. and it just seemed to not land.

Although when Eve started to terrorize and gaslight her, I thought Hamilton did well with that and how she responded to the threats and taunts lodged at her.

I also give a bit of credit that the writers remembered that Mindy was friends with Harley and Mallet during that time since by the time Crampton had taken over as Mindy.. no mention had been made that she had been friends with Harley or Mallet.

The show only seemed to remember some connections Mindy had depending on which actress was playing her. When Simms was playing Mindy, I don't recall any mention of her and Frank dating was ever bought up but anytime Krista was playing Mindy.. mention was made of Frank/Mindy formerly dating (and I have to say I wouldn't have been opposed to having Frank/Mindy being end game at the end of the show instead of Rick/Mindy or Blake/Frank).

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TPIR- GL themed Showcase, 1985

Edited 1 hour ago1 hr by Spoon

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Here's one with Meg Ryan from when she was on ATWT