On the next episode of "The Cosby Show" ...Victor , Ashley and family flush Zapato down the toilet during his service....

Really?? A dog service on Y&R??????

Stranger things have happened. People leave all their $$$ to their pet chihuahuas and stuff IRL. And I can see how a rich old fogey would want to commemorate that gorgeous golden retriever! Not only was Zapato adorable, he loved his master unconditionally, came running when summoned and obeyed every instruction. Victor must be wishing everybody he knew was like Zapato. Good dog!

Well... I thought today's eppy was pretty good! Nice to see Jack and Billy being protective of Ashley, and trying to get her out of there at all costs. I would have PREFERRED if she would have stood up to Victor and went with Jack and Billy. But then again, this would defuse Adam's sadistic whatever. Adam's stuff was the low point today. This character is just now beyond the pale, Muhney needs to pull up some sympathy rom inside him, SOMEHOW... but I don't see it happening. Hayley Erin ONCE AGAIN smiles during her eulogy of Zapato.... you could see she was trying to contain it, but she didn't succeed. Someone needs to sit this girl down and give her a serious talking. She'd be ok if she just adjusted her acting, I know she's young... but growth needs to happen, and QUICK. And her acting in the same scene right next to Schmidt makes her look all the worse. Cast and Hendrickson, once again... really make today's episode really watchable. These two are carrying half the show. Love the emotional looks on Tricia's face, her caring convo with Paul... just WONDERFUL. And Hendrickson's scene at the end with Driscoll was really great in every way. Braeden's scene when he was left alone at Zapato's grave was so touching. Typical Victor, making me feel sorry for him, and at the same time delighting in the fact the he has NO control over most of his life, and after throwing Nikki aside and treating her like sh!t for well over a year... he's now stuck with a crazy woman as his wife. Couldn't think of anyone who deserves it more.

I must admit that I enjoyed the Jack and Billy scenes. It was nice to see them go and get Ashley the hell out of that mansion. Victor really did improve the security over there. If there was any proof that Victor doesn't love Ashley it's the fact that he won't let her go for her own safety.

There would probably be an outrage if Zapato didn't get a funeral. He was an important part of Victor's life.

It's too late for her redemption, but I really liked MJ's confessional. I felt more for Todd than I did her. I could imagine it would be tough to her that the sister you haven't seen in years is in such bad shape and she has done horrible things.

From the preview: What the hell is it with this 1950's thinking that a child needs two parents to be happy!? I'm assuming that is what Chloe means that Billy can give Delia, him and Mac as a family. On this show the parents could be Glo and Jeff and the writing would make it better than having Lauren as a single parent.

I agree with alphanguy and lovely_m about Zapato's funeral. I hate that they killed the dog, but since they did, I'm glad he got a nice little service. He was too important to Victor during the epilepsy story to just never mention him again after he died last week.

From the preview: What the hell is it with this 1950's thinking that a child needs two parents to be happy!? I'm assuming that is what Chloe means that Billy can give Delia, him and Mac as a family. On this show the parents could be Glo and Jeff and the writing would make it better than having Lauren as a single parent.

Well, I know it's 1950's thinking... but I also think they do this because Chloe has an absent father complex, she was DETERMINED that her child not grow up without a father. They played Jill's love for Phillip. Stuart, and John as an absent father complex as well. It's a long tradition with Y&R.

Truthfully I haven't seen ED give very good performances in ages, long before LML sent her packing. I think she just sees this as a paycheck and has for a long time. The last time I saw her fully invested in a role was Kristen/Susan.

Eileen invested in Rashley! She invested in that!

So Paul, the detective, didnt recognize Patty Jane by her voice yet his brother did?? That's a big WTF moment for me. And out of all the people to discover Patty it's Gloria and Jeffrey...Ugh...

The Ashley gaslighting and Patty story are downright stupid. Victor doesnt see that his wife needs help???

So Paul, the detective, didnt recognize Patty Jane by her voice yet his brother did?? That's a big WTF moment for me. And out of all the people to discover Patty it's Gloria and Jeffrey...Ugh...

It wasn't the voice. It was the Mary Williams quote she gave "My mother always said...", and then saying she had one brother in town hurting and another who was a priest in Detroit.

So Paul, the detective, didnt recognize Patty Jane by her voice yet his brother did?? That's a big WTF moment for me.

I didn't take it that he recognized her voice, rather that the pieces were falling into place by what she said. Quoting their mother about confession twice, having a priest for a brother that lives in Detroit, etc.

Oh ok..I guess I missed all that. I just wish these stories were over. Patty cant be redemmed and neither can Adam. They are just prolonging these stories to keep the two actors around. I really dont think Patty or Adam can do anything worse than they have already. There is no more shock value to their actions either.

I just wish these stories were over. Patty cant be redemmed and neither can Adam. They are just prolonging these stories to keep the two actors around. I really dont think Patty or Adam can do anything worse than they have already. There is no more shock value to their actions either.

Agreed.

But this show wraps stuff up fast that should fleshed out more, and they prolong the most inane and stupid of things.

And hell, even if these Adam and Patty Jane stories have been going on too long, they've skipped many important beats and things have happened too fast. So while the overall story has dragged on, the middle of it all is rushed.

Edited August 11, 200916 yr by Y&RWorldTurner

Great post!

I like(d) Vashley, too, because at the time there was something sweet and tender about the way they treated each other. Plus, as the years went by, they gave up their chance to be together and so there was always unfinished business between the two of them. No closure.

I would LOVE it if Ashley had followed through on her anger last week and given him what-for for dicking her family out of Jabot AGAIN. I hope she gives him what-for when she figures out that she had nothing to do with Zapato's death -- and Victor knew it! I'm kind of pissed that at the very moment that Ashley NEEDS her husband and family, Victor is busy making cow-eyes at Nikki and Jack is bailing Sharon out of jail. Damn. Even the blackmailed doctor is looking out for Ash more than her loved ones.

As for Nikki, I think she is having a major identity crisis. For most of her adult life, Nikki has been refashioned by Victor. He is her Pygmalion -- he took this "stripper" as he often reminds her and turned her into the blonde trophy wife and society matron. Nikki has played the role of Mrs. Newman for so long that she feels it is her, it is real and she cannot let it go. Perhaps her feelings for Paul confuse her because it reminds her of a time before Victor -- a time of struggle and uncertainty. Victor = safety but he also = dependence.

Victor treating Ashley's family like crap is old news to her. She always waves her finger and says how dare you, but she usually goes back to him or she moons over him. I don't think it's new for Ashley to be so uninterested in her family, it's just new that the family cares so little about each other. Ashley and Jack are no longer characters, they just serve the plot, they fill out spaces. Billy is seen by the show as superior to everyone around him so they only have him interact with the family when they feel like they have to.

I would have bought Nikki/Paul if they'd been given more airtime. Or the Nikki falling for Victor again if that had better pacing and airtime. They push all these decisions on Nikki without any proper airtime, all while other stories that go nowhere get endless airtime. I know this is about money but it still ends up hurting the cohesion of the show.

Barf alert tomorrow with Tyra and Devon...

Why has this show fallen so hard? Damn, this is some rock bottom sh!t. These writers suck.

They've known forever that Devon being a pervert that had sexual feelings for his family members (no matter if they're blood related) was unpopular. Then they go and try this?

Do the idiot head writers at this show EVER learn from their mistakes?

Also, they neglect these characters and don't write for their black characters, and this is what they give them? And you know it will be a once a month storyline too.

Edited August 11, 200916 yr by Y&RWorldTurner

On the next episode of "The Cosby Show" ...Victor , Ashley and family flush Zapato down the toilet during his service....

Really?? A dog service on Y&R??????

I'm sure all the dogs are happy that they respect them by giving one of their own a service. I wish I can say the writers respect other things on this show.

They respect a boy and the woman he thought was his aunt for almost all of his life f.ucking!

Yes, that's the type of hack writers we have running this show into the ground now.

No one can rationalize or make excuses for this sh!t.

Edited August 11, 200916 yr by Y&RWorldTurner