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Y&R: Week of June 1, 2009

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They are making Amber unlikeable to me right now. She needs to stop calling the victims of Kevin's crime spree "crazy". They do have a right to be pissed.

Yeah this is a good point I think that reaction is in character for Amber though, what they need is a counter balance, a character that is sort of the voice for those people (if this story is going there) other than the detective.

We are seeing the same thing.

But, here is what I'm thinking (and I know I'm probably giving too much credit). I think he's trapped. There is nothing he can do that won't cause pain. Also, for each woman, he has a joy (especially now, for Sharon, knowing he might reconnect with her)...but a matched sadness. Because he knows it won't be the same with Sharon. And he knows what he is squandering with Phyllis.

What we're seeing in his face and body is the paralysis that emerges from a zero sum. Happiness gets cancelled out by sadness, hope gets cancelled out by fear. All these dualities are very interior...so what we see on the outside is the paralysis of the mixed emotions. He doesn't react in a decisive way because he's torn...the absence of reaction belies the war within. No one emotion dominates.

Inside, he's a raging mess. I wish the writing would support our seeing that. There are several ways they could do that...a dream...even a hokey "angel vs. devil" battle of his two selves, at war with one another.

I will admit that he could play this better with his eyes, with a hunched body posture, with little things like reaching to comfort Phyllis and then drawing back.

But Nick and Morrow are NOT THAT GUY. They don't do non-verbals. They're straight up, what you see is what you get. So, Morrow doesn't show us "acting process", because he sort of eschews that kind of technique.

Then again...he could just be a block of wood.

I like what JM brings to Nick overall. The thing about it is we each may have preferences for using certain methods in what we do over others. But sometimes the methods that we don't like that much are necessary to uplift certain parts of a project. Some necessary choices like it or not (if given his best shot) may have done wonders in what he brought to those scenes. If it was a question of doing something in which he didn't like that much to help the scene, then he could have sucked it up for those moments and worked with those elements

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Yeah this is a good point I think that reaction is in character for Amber though, what they need is a counter balance, a character that is sort of the voice for those people (if this story is going there) other than the detective.

Agreed. Amber's never been the most "likable" character - everything always boils down to how it's "all about her". Sometimes AF is able to walk the fine line between self-serving comedy and rootable factor, and other times, not so much. She was particularly screechy today, but then I reminded myself that she was just robbed, and from her POV, she has no reason to think it ISN'T one of the "Internet crazies"

And frankly, there are a lot of them out here. Not all of us - but enough that I could see where Amber was coming from, even if many of the people who wrote the letters/e-mails in the first place were probably speaking the truth.

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I'll say this - I'm happy the new housekeeper is not "ethnic." I actually thought it was Sharon at first.

Amber is going back to her LML ways. Let's hope this trend does not continue.

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I'll say this - I'm happy the new housekeeper is not "ethnic." I actually thought it was Sharon at first.

LOL! The story they should have told. :lol:

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LoL. It really took me by surprise!

Oh wow, JT/Mac finally reunite tomorrow!, and they acknowledge it being 2 months!

On a gloomier note, they also acknowledged that it's been one fracking year since Ana/Tyra has been in GC, and yet, they STILL suck. Granted they left for a couple of weeks, but wow, it's been one year since that b-tch hit town! Time for her to hit the road.

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Ahhhhhhhhhhh - MJ day! I am so in her corner rooting for her to tear down the whole place. Stacy is so vulnerable as an actress. You really just want to hug MJ and tell her to focus her energy on a new man. I like how the story is progressing, that MJ's cage is being so rattled by Jack, Victor, Paul and now Father Todd, that her back's to the corner and she has to go on the offensive. Thank God they didn't make Victor stupid and have him blurt out Sharon's preggers.

Paul and Nikki's convo was foretelling - "If we don't talk about work or ex's what do we talk about?" What, indeed.

The only question for me is What did Victor want her to do? Make Jackfall in love with her - but not sleep with her? Was that her big mistake? Perhaps Victor knew if Jack got the goods he'd throw her away like trash?

Jill has so much ammunition against Victor now but she'll never make him bow down. He just won't be blackmailed. By the way - i think this is the first time in a long time that Victor has ever truly failed in the sense that he hatched this scheme, saw it wasn't working and aborted the whole thing. Braeden was probably OK with a private fail, just not a public one.

The B story with Jana/Kevin/Amber/Daniel just doesn't do anything for me plot-wise. But character-wise, it's not a bore to watch the other quad. But Amber is always on the verge of becoming irritating.

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I'm scared that Judith Chapman is rubbing off on Jess Walton...

I love the crooked smile that MJ gives off.

This Daniel story sucks. I'd rather see MG be written off than watch this sh-t again.

After the silver chipmunk story, I have a hard time watching Rikaart.

ETA: I heard a theory that maybe Uncle Langley and Cane were lovers down under...

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Ahhhhhhhhhhh - MJ day! I am so in her corner rooting for her to tear down the whole place. Stacy is so vulnerable as an actress. You really just want to hug MJ and tell her to focus her energy on a new man. I like how the story is progressing, that MJ's cage is being so rattled by Jack, Victor, Paul and now Father Todd, that her back's to the corner and she has to go on the offensive. Thank God they didn't make Victor stupid and have him blurt out Sharon's preggers.

Paul and Nikki's convo was foretelling - "If we don't talk about work or ex's what do we talk about?" What, indeed.

The only question for me is What did Victor want her to do? Make Jackfall in love with her - but not sleep with her? Was that her big mistake? Perhaps Victor knew if Jack got the goods he'd throw her away like trash?

Jill has so much ammunition against Victor now but she'll never make him bow down. He just won't be blackmailed. By the way - i think this is the first time in a long time that Victor has ever truly failed in the sense that he hatched this scheme, saw it wasn't working and aborted the whole thing. Braeden was probably OK with a private fail, just not a public one.

The B story with Jana/Kevin/Amber/Daniel just doesn't do anything for me plot-wise. But character-wise, it's not a bore to watch the other quad. But Amber is always on the verge of becoming irritating.

Loved MJ , my reaction to her wanting to turn Jack into shambles was bring it on! Though usually I like Jack; I agree about Paul and Nikki Wierdly enough it stuck me as strange that Paul finally put his foot down on the Victor talk, then it was even stranger Nikki's matter of fact response.

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MarkH, I love how you try to find something in JM's performance :D.

Stacey Haiduck is love.

I could hardly pay attention during the Four Fools & their Fool Art story. Even EOB is tainted by this nonsense.

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Re EB's possible shooting schedule,I agree that behind the scenes stuff is affecting what we see-be it budgets,contracts,set use etc.

There are so many missed opportunities.

What next for Phyllis?She is the only member of the quad not to have paired off with someone else.I think it would be interesting for Phyllis to be tempted or have another guy interested.

But who?Maybe if she began leaning heavily on Michael,that could bring out Lauren's claws.That could be fun.

Who else do you see with Phyllis?

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Re EB's possible shooting schedule,I agree that behind the scenes stuff is affecting what we see-be it budgets,contracts,set use etc.

There are so many missed opportunities.

What next for Phyllis?She is the only member of the quad not to have paired off with someone else.I think it would be interesting for Phyllis to be tempted or have another guy interested.

But who?Maybe if she began leaning heavily on Michael,that could bring out Lauren's claws.That could be fun.

Who else do you see with Phyllis?

Seems to me they may just slap Phyllis and Jack back together.

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I mean, we know he is capable of more. I just watched the Cassie death scenes a few days ago.

So what I don't know is whether he's simply not doing the work to get himself to a deeper place ("lazy") or whether this is an intentional acting choice. We know he is capable of better (so it is not like he has reached the limits of his skills).

There are some huge differences between this and Cassie's death. First, of course, death-of-child (especially one you've watched growing for a decade) is easier to summon emotions for. Second, Ed Scott was there back then. Maybe he could pull more out of Morrow back then than Rauch and the current directors can.

I believe the actor hates the story. Nick is being written into a very tight corner as the [!@#$%^&*] to end all assholes on the show. I do think he is being understated in his performance but more than that, he hates it and is appearing to try and simply get through it. If we BELIEVE he is as big of an ass as the script calls for, them we are going to hate Nick even more.

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Morrow has never been a nuanced actor people, he might have delivered certain scenes great here and there, but he has never been a consistent performer, regardless of the storyline.

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I believe the actor hates the story. Nick is being written into a very tight corner as the [!@#$%^&*] to end all assholes on the show. I do think he is being understated in his performance but more than that, he hates it and is appearing to try and simply get through it. If we BELIEVE he is as big of an ass as the script calls for, them we are going to hate Nick even more.

I think he's telegraphed this in interviews, but he needs to rise above what he likes and doesn't like. I don't think a whole lot about JM's acting. He's Nick to me and not so bad that I ever think, "damn that was bad" and not really ever so good that I think "Damn, he just blew me away". He's hot and owns his character. That's all I ask in this case.

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