Members Liberty City Posted October 19, 2021 Members Share Posted October 19, 2021 Based on what I've seen, Vana Tribbey gave me more Iris vibes than Alice. Despite not being as strong as Jacqueline Courtney and Susan Harney, Wesley Ann Pfenning had a special kind of promise in the role of Alice, and it almost seems like had TPTB given her more time in the role, she could have worked out. Possibly, on the flip side, the role was recast too swiftly between Harney and Pfenning, which can sometimes be a negative. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Vee Posted October 19, 2021 Members Share Posted October 19, 2021 Based on limited material available I think both Pfenning and Tribbey were very arch and different than Alice. As you said, Tribbey in particular reminded me more of Iris. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members FrenchBug82 Posted October 19, 2021 Members Share Posted October 19, 2021 Does anyone know if the Borgenson/Canary scenes that Vee was referring to re on YouTube? I tried looking for them using a few key words but it hasnt yielded anything 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members AbcNbc247 Posted October 19, 2021 Members Share Posted October 19, 2021 Yes. They’re hard to find though. There is a playlist of the 1981 episodes but the videos are all hours long and have multiple episodes in them. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Vee Posted October 19, 2021 Members Share Posted October 19, 2021 You were warned! Please register in order to view this content 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members FrenchBug82 Posted October 19, 2021 Members Share Posted October 19, 2021 Thank you so much for tracking it down for me Please register in order to view this content I am only two minutes in but I think I am indeed going to need a cup of tea for the rest. LB hasn't said much yet but even just the writing is... That is also a fun tip! Thank you. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members AbcNbc247 Posted October 19, 2021 Members Share Posted October 19, 2021 I just looked it up. I’m on my phone so I can’t embed the link, but search “AW Collection from Chase” and that’ll take you to the playlist 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members danfling Posted October 20, 2021 Members Share Posted October 20, 2021 The clip above is the first time that I have ever seen the late David Canary in the role of Steve. He was much better than I would have expected (having thought that he was a miscast in the role). Which actor was playing Jamie at that time? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Efulton Posted October 20, 2021 Members Share Posted October 20, 2021 The best Jamie. Richard Bekins. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Nicholas Blair Posted October 20, 2021 Members Share Posted October 20, 2021 Richard Bekins was very good as Jamie. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members zanereed Posted October 20, 2021 Members Share Posted October 20, 2021 I 100% agree - I never understood this, either. Actually, they could have tweaked it a bit where Rachel and Russ wouldn't even need to be romantically involved. I would have played out the long game in the relationship - Rachel isn't looking for anyone new after the love of her life has passed. Russ isn't really looking for romance, either, and certainly not with his ex-wife. However, they both find a fun and unique *friendship*. They go out to dinner, dancing, etc. - they have fun! Their non-romantic relationship causes various reactions with some in Bay City. For instance, Amanda is thrilled by the fact that her Mom is on the rebound, but not necessarily a romantic rebound. Matt has a different take, though, and doesn't trust the situation at all. Matt influences Josie to not trust her newfound father, and therefore Russ can't seem to get close to Josie, no matter how much he tries (much to the relief of Sharlene). I would have also kept either Alice or Pat on full time, as they would be the ones from the Matthews point of view - should Russ really be doing this? Is Russ falling for Rachel again? Is history repeating itself? Jamie would be the one who would look at it all with cautious optimism Please register in order to view this content . 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Forever8 Posted October 20, 2021 Members Share Posted October 20, 2021 I like this!!! 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members j swift Posted October 20, 2021 Members Share Posted October 20, 2021 I'm more of a Stephen Yates fan. But, I far prefer that era of Jamie versus the Lau/Todd Jamie the Doctor era. It was always more believable to me that a boy raised by Rachel would grow up to be a creative type, prone to jealousy, and addiction. As opposed to a boring self righteous medical professional. Even looking back at them as teens, I could believe Dennis to be more of the moral center and Jamie to be a playboy. Rachel's son should never have been anyone's second choice to Jake. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members amybrickwallace Posted October 20, 2021 Members Share Posted October 20, 2021 Why exactly was Jamie written out in 1993 - never to return? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members FrenchBug82 Posted October 20, 2021 Members Share Posted October 20, 2021 I mean, I have no personal knowledge but of all the things that went wrong in the 90s, I can't be too harsh there. The character didn't work in any of the versions we had been given. There was nothing memorable for us to miss. He functioned mainly as a romantic lead to prop up other characters and by then Vicky had Ryan and Jake as "soulmates", Marley was a non-entity and the other leading ladies in that - stretched as it had been - age range were related to him. There was no room, was there? In a vacuum he should have been there as a member of a core family but in practice I can see why he wasn't necessary and the audience didn't miss him specifically, did we? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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