Members AbcNbc247 Posted October 9, 2019 Members Share Posted October 9, 2019 The last great moments of 1981. After this, the show just fell apart. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Contessa Donatella Posted October 10, 2019 Members Share Posted October 10, 2019 And, before anything else happens, JFP fired Barbara Berjer for being too old, aka over 50. (Same for David Hedison.) I don't know how much it meant at GL for Barbara Berjer to be fired but at AW, she was always there to take care of Vicky's two boys! 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Members Xanthe Posted October 11, 2019 Members Share Posted October 11, 2019 I'm curious in what sense it fell apart. This is well after the expansion to 90 minutes and the spin-off of Texas, both of which are discussed as the beginning of the end. Was there a major change in the writing or in the cast that made the wheels come off? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Contessa Donatella Posted October 11, 2019 Members Share Posted October 11, 2019 (edited) AbcNbc247 was speaking of 1981 .... so, looking at other dates, Doug died May 1989 & Connie died Feb. 1993 ... --------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Someone asked where the AW Bible is. It is in the Publications Section of the AWHP. It's easy to find once you land in that section. Edited October 11, 2019 by Donna B Draw a line. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members RavenWhitney Posted October 11, 2019 Members Share Posted October 11, 2019 (edited) Interesting: just saw a credit crawl for the show in 81 when Lawrence Konner and his wife were head writers. They had five script writers who never wrote for daytime again. One (Mark Rosenthal) went on to great writer success in hollywood alongside Konner.. Edited October 11, 2019 by RavenWhitney 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members AbcNbc247 Posted October 11, 2019 Members Share Posted October 11, 2019 (edited) That's just what I think. When I watched the 1981 episodes on YT, overall I enjoyed them. I didn't like that Rachel suddenly had feelings for Mitch and left Mac for him, especially after everything they went through the previous year, but there were a lot of good stories at that time. But I always felt like after the hostage crisis was when everything just got so boring and the stories just got stupid. Restarting Rachel/Steve/Alice with a fake Steve and a fake Alice, Clarice getting raped by Jerry, Jamie's book. I wasn't a fan of any of that. L. Virginia Browne was headwriter in the first half of 1981, but sometime during the year, it might have been during the strike was when Corinne Jacker came in and just ruined everything. She was a playwright, not a soap writer and it could have been Rauch's attempt to find a new Lemay for the show. I'd love to find what was going on behind the scenes during this time. I know CJ was quoted in saying that she hated working on the show, but my question is why? Was there behind the scenes turmoil or was she just an egomaniac that thought she was better than soaps? Edited October 11, 2019 by AbcNbc247 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members ScottyBman Posted October 11, 2019 Members Share Posted October 11, 2019 What?!? Jerry rapes Clarice? I am still at the hostage stuff. Mac just got shot.... 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members AbcNbc247 Posted October 11, 2019 Members Share Posted October 11, 2019 Sorry. Didn't mean to spoil it for you. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members ScottyBman Posted October 11, 2019 Members Share Posted October 11, 2019 No worries. It happened in 1981. All talk is fair game. I like the relationship between Sandy and Jamie. I am guessing Cecile destroys it. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
victoria foxton Posted October 11, 2019 Share Posted October 11, 2019 Jerry out of no where became a schizophrenic. I must warn you the rape is painful to watch. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members denzo30 Posted October 12, 2019 Members Share Posted October 12, 2019 Who is CJ? The show was terrible at this time. The big down fall that last lasted for about the next 7 years until the robust of characters and Harding Lemay in 1988 for only a few months. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members robbwolff Posted October 12, 2019 Members Share Posted October 12, 2019 CJ = Corinne Jacker 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Contessa Donatella Posted October 12, 2019 Members Share Posted October 12, 2019 (edited) Corinne Jacker was a disaster, wasn't she? That year, (1981) Ms. Jacker’s career took a different turn when she became head writer for the NBC soap opera “Another World.” But she quit after one season. “I hated it,” she told Mr. Wishna. I hope that both Jensen & Zimmer can both pull themselves up out of the deep holes they're in. It would be too much to imagine that they could work again, although Zimmer has worked some in theatre. Watching Wednesday's Chicago PD Edited October 12, 2019 by Donna B Corinne Jacker, dated 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members AbcNbc247 Posted October 12, 2019 Members Share Posted October 12, 2019 Over 10 years since I first saw the episode and I still can't believe that Al Bundy shot Mac Cory lol I liked their relationship too. Cecile does scheme a little, but actually it's Jamie who messes up his and Sandy's friendship the most. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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