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ScottyBman

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  1. Yes, making her a caricature of her former self was a disappointment. The schemes to which Cecile came to Bay City in further incarnations were just over to the top. The one when she came back homeless and Felicia took her in showed promise. It would have been great to see her humbled and then rebuild a life start good then revert back to scheming but without the over the top Queen of Tanqueray "...It's Tanquiir mother..." said Vicky to Donna to which Donna replied, "...whatever" And this give me a chance to repaste my favorite scenes with Donna, Vicky and Cecille.
  2. I think that it has been said before that unfortunately soaps tended to chase each other when one had a successful storyline or type of character others would develop similar hoping lighting struck twice. Sometimes it did, but often it did not. AW was already a pale version of itself by the time it ended, just as today's soaps are pale versions of what they once were.
  3. Although for the most part I was done with AW by the time they ended, I was never really that invested in the character of Lila. She was no Vicky or Cecile, although I understand having Lisa Peluso was an attempt I am guessing on bringing new eyes to the show. Another "bi$%h that goes from conniving to a heroine is always a good plot line, but I guess I wasn't invested by this point.
  4. I think it was a Houseboat as well, was the Love yacht where Peter and Cecile's Roaring 20's wedding was held?
  5. 100% - Anna Stuart fan and Donna Love fan! Can still remember when she returned at the party in the room of mirrors. I do think that PS made the transition from Ice Queen to Victim/Heroine which is what the writers were doing at that time. I get how hard it is to keep a character involved in storylines and sometimes they go astray. Donna was definately a character who for lack of better term "evolved" with almost every writer regime. Sometmes they were unsure what to do with the character. But anytime Anna/Donna walked into a scene it was magic.
  6. ...and it also depends if you genuinely like the person the pranks are fun. Conversely, pranks and antics by someone you already have a predisposition to and it is extra annoying. Sounds like Ms. Bev demanded a sense of professionalism around her, although in his Locker Room interview on You Tube John Bolger mentioned his first scene with her and was quite gracious and funny, so I think it just depends. (I can say in real life some people find me very difficult and demanding and others find me funny, goofy and amusing.) And they are all me.
  7. I can remember watching that episode having no idea it was coming and like....wholly heck! The dark haunting life at the Love Mansion was my favorite storylines of AW by far.
  8. I can still remember watching when they introduced Vicky meeting up with Jake and they start kissing and it was like what?!? Had no idea that was coming. A great soap opera surprise. Does anyone remember if there were any hints or leaks that this was coming? Or what storyline shockers really surprised you?
  9. Donna resonated as Another World was always good with the Upstairs/Downstairs characters and needed that snotty patrician social snob. Nicole as the "party girl model" in the beginning was great, as was the pairing with her working lawyer brother, Peter. However, Peter went from the moral center to a weaker version looking for acceptance from daddy, Nicole changed lives from model to writer/singer/moral center to fashion designer and even Donna went from snob to heroine of a sort. While characters need to evolve, they seemed like they were always chasing a storyline or looking to fit these
  10. One of my favorite scenes in AW history. Donna being snarky and eliteist. "Her legs are too short..." :-)
  11. Anna Stuart!!!! She looks great! All of them look great and I loved that she and Kale have maintained a friendship throughout the years! I also loved how Kale mentioned the 4th Vicky! What a great side note. Alicia Coppola's commentary was also hilarious. The best episode of this web interview series. :-)
  12. I don't think we would have seen the Love's as would there be a need for a third wealthy family and not another patriarch like Reginald. And although they had overlapped them later, I don't know that the need for another society snob like Donna would have been created with Iris still front and center.
  13. Would you not say though that by 1985, the dynamic of soaps were changing in a result to be faster, younger and more focused on wealth, glamour and the high life. Even the way characters were introduced became a bigger event. I am not saying it was right, but I think it was indicative of the times. Over the top, was something soaps embraced. An escape. And conversely, if something wasn't working, it was shut down quickly and the writers/producers moved into something new. For long time viewers, that meant jettisoning off characters who mabe they felt did not fit the "new mold". As someo
  14. Quite a different portrayal than her return in the mid to late 80's.
  15. I gave up. It was unwatchable. But some of them have been better as far as the audio/connection. Did they mention Anna? I would have loved to have seen her.
  16. Didn't Burton then work on GL for a few years later? Another P&G soap, so he could not have been too bad?
  17. I have to admit I fast forward through a lot that is not Donna centric. I didn't hate the McKinnon's but MJ that was hooker turned cop...ouch... Vince was recast about 4 times, I think. And while I enjoyed Reginald Love, mostly because of his dynamic with Donna and Peter, the Mary KcKinnon/Marissa LaSalle stuff was in my eyes pretty bad.
  18. So I have been rewatching the 80's. It is now 1985 and the wheels have fallen off. LeSoleil...what the %$^& is that? The chasing of Egyptian and Indian art in Arizona, Taylor Miller as Sally Frame.... The show is just a mess. They are chasing the 80's formula, but very badly. I am guessing soon the revamping of the show is coming where the focus goes to the Loves, the McKinnons and the Cory's. But for now, we have all this bizarre storylines going on....
  19. You are 100% correct. The problem with this lies in the fact that if there is not some "redemption" it is more difficult to continue to write these characters into the canvas and still be "realistic". At some point, one wonders why the bitches, for lack of a better term are still included. In real life, we may let someone into our lives that have done us wrong, but at some point it has to give. Their schemes and intentions are more obvious and more difficult to be welcomed and included in the lives of the other characters on the canvas. So one has to knock them down a peg or redeem them t
  20. They needed to take a little of the over the top camp out of Cecile by the mid 90's. They started there a bit with the scenes of her and Felicia and Cecile was living in her car. They needed to get her back to the working girl she was in the late 70's and 80's. Maybe end up working with Donna at KBAY. But alas years as the Queen of Tanqueray (It's Tanquir mother as Victoria corrected Donna in my favorite scene...) made her too far removed to be that person again.
  21. While Anna Stuart is the Donna Love, that I loved. It was funny watching Philece Sampler as snotty Donna. Although if we really pick apart the dialogue as she complained of the smells of the farm, history shows that she spent a good bit of time in the Love Estate Stables and I am sure the fragrance was about the same. But that is just nitpicking.....
  22. I am also rewatching, although I am still at the end of 1981. It is mid November. I think even here I see a wind of change coming. Probably easier to see as watching in the future rather than in the present. Jerry just raped Clarice. Jamie is James and now being the "bad boy" Steven Frame is back and everything seems to be BlackHawk. Although I see that there presence will be big for a while, but not long term. I see many of the cast floating and many of them are surely posed to head off the canvas.
  23. So I am chugging away through 1981. Mac just got custody of Amanda. (Who is played by the cutest little girl...she is just a sweetheart on the screen). "Steven Frame" is back in town as David Canary now plays him, but he has yet to reveal his identity. Mac is planning on marrying Alice (which I am guessing never happens...) Rachel is packing to move to California (which I am also guessing never happens...) I love the scenes with Ada, although as I had said earlier when I watched in the mid to late 80's as a much younger person I did not appreciate. Cecile is pregnant (shocker...) we know
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