Okay. I swear to God, if I hear that V8 [!@#$%^&*] again, I am going to throw something at my tv.

Otherwise, great episode...

Once again, I have to talk about how well produced this show is again. The intense old-school scores are great, and some of the newer scores are great and in the classical tradition.

Also, the transitions between scenes is effortless. The production values are just top notch. The directing is also really good and has gotten much tighter since Rauch arrived. Also, little things like wardrobe, hair, and make-up have all vastly improved. It's all very noticeable for a year and even 6 months ago. Latham and Griffith tried to make this show look like an ABC soap (cheap-looking as hell), not the lush and advanced aesthetic masterpiece it's supposed to look like and looks like right now. This show looks BEAUTIFUL on HDTV!

LML and Griffith's attempts to make the show look like an ABC soap (as you rightly point you: hideous!) is such a paradox. The ABC soaps, if they had the money, would choose to look like Y&R in a heartbeat...I just don't understand what LML's mandate could have been: regress the show? Make it look like sh*t? Drive away viewers? That hack bitch will NEVER make sense to me.

I was really shocked Adam would be so cold to Heather and threaten her job. Vail just keeps getting better and better. She just can't go.

From spoilers i read today it looks like Kay

gets her memory back and no one believes she's Katherine. Jill has her arrested and Kay and Gloria end up in jail together! WOW! And this is a guess not a spoiler, but I think Kay and Jill will have a blood test and the blood test might come out that they aren't related!

But, when Heather was out of eyeshot, Adam's face dissolved into a total look of remorse and pain. Did you see that? It was a quick flash! And it immediately rescued the character from irredeemability.

As for your comment

"Kay and Jill will have a blood test and the blood test might come out that they aren't related"

, OMG OMG OMG you have solved it!!!!

I had seen this element, and I wondered why

Kay would not be immediately accepted back

. But your comment explains it. Of course they'd do

a blood test

. Jeanne Cooper is finally

getting what she wants!! The undoing of the Jill-Kay union!

They are

repairing Jack Smith's biggest mistake!

I feel it in my bones. You're right! Brilliant speculation!

As for your comment

"Kay and Jill will have a blood test and the blood test might come out that they aren't related"

, OMG OMG OMG you have solved it!!!!

I had seen this element, and I wondered why

Kay would not be immediately accepted back

. But your comment explains it. Of course they'd do

a blood test

. Jeanne Cooper is finally

getting what she wants!! The undoing of the Jill-Kay union!

They are

repairing Jack Smith's biggest mistake!

I feel it in my bones. You're right! Brilliant speculation!

OMG! I never thought of that. If the writers do that, I'll be on the top of the world. It will be my Christmas present (even though Y&R has already given me what I wanted this year).

OMG! I never thought of that. If the writers do that, I'll be on the top of the world. It will be my Christmas present (even though Y&R has already given me what I wanted this year).

Now, the other thing I "want" (but can't have) is the reversal of John's death.

Since that can't happen, I'd be satisfied with one of the following two possibilities:

- integrate John's ghost more, as was done a few weeks ago, and have him be the conscience to all the Abbott offspring...and maybe Jill, Gloria, etc. too. Not ALWAYS. Not OFTEN...but sometimes

- figure out a way to bring Alistair down to earth. Bring him to town again and have someone explain WHY he looks so much like John; reveal that he is the brother John disowned. Have Alistair get sober, but not lose the twinkle in his eye. The Abbotts keep him around because he is a tie to John, and he gradually becomes a reasonable, if not so serious, older talk-to

I'd love either of these. But if they could "reverse" that final mistake, I'd be in bliss.

LOVE the Skin Cream Killer finally getting whats coming to her

Why did Adam turn on Victor? Wasnt he treated as Victor's favorite when he came to town.

How was a diary ever used as evidence for murder? That seems like such a weak link and anyone could write anythign and plant it. I cant beleive the DAs are basing their entire case on that

Jill and Ashley look amazing. Loving their hair and they havent looked this good in years

Why did Adam turn on Victor? Wasnt he treated as Victor's favorite when he came to town.

When Victor was presumed dead, Adam took over Newman, fired Neil and Victoria, added Brad to the company and totally started to change the company around. Victor gladly fired Adam when he returned and prevented Adam from getting a job at any other better firm. That's why Adam has been working on getting revenge and framing his father.

How was a diary ever used as evidence for murder? That seems like such a weak link and anyone could write anythign and plant it. I cant beleive the DAs are basing their entire case on that

Well it was proved that it's Victor's handwriting, even though it was not. I guess that was enough for them.

I was really shocked Adam would be so cold to Heather and threaten her job. Vail just keeps getting better and better. She just can't go.

I agree. I've always thought, with good writing, she could be great. She has been doing a wonderful job.

Jill/Kay comment: Cashton, you are the wind beneath my wings.

Edited December 19, 200816 yr by S&BFanForLife

Ashley: SIT, your ASS, DOWN!

"SIT. YOUR ASS DOWN. NOW!"

I've just died and gone to some sort of soap heaven.

Jesus, Nick looks 12.

Edited December 19, 200816 yr by Darn

I loved the line from Ashley to Gloria. Ol' Gloho didn't know where that came from. Serves the bitch right to get blasted from all sides!

ETA: You could see the pisstivity (yeah I did say pisstivity) in Phyllis' eyes when she found out Nick was outside with Sharon. And homegirl looked slightly crazy when she came outside. Glad Phyllis is getting back to her roots without being a psycho.

Edited December 19, 200816 yr by a2sassy

ETA: You could see the pisstivity (yeah I did say pisstivity) in Phyllis' eyes when she found out Nick was outside with Sharon. And homegirl looked slightly crazy when she came outside. Glad Phyllis is getting back to her roots without being a psycho.

Michelle Stafford totally brought it (for me) back when she confronted Jack and started yelling "Keep a LEASH on your WIFE! I want her OUT of my MARRIAGE!" It's like Phyllis almost lost it. Since then she's been barely keeping it together, and it really reminds me of Phyllis when she first appeared on Y&R. On one hand, she is teetering on the edge -- but at the same time, her anger and jealousy are relatable and human.

So they just showed a quick John and Jack flashback and then showed John(the ghost) in the office and it brought up something I've been meaning to ask, when did they start putting such orange makeup on JD?

SIT YOUR ASS DOWN NOW!

Well, crap, the scene was nothing. And they waited 20 minutes to show it. I really wanted Ashley to tear into her, I mean, I've seen her yell at Jack more for smaller offenses. Baaaaah.